so we just heard mark holden's explanation.thing y would add from yor perspective of somebody who has been watching this for a long time? >> i think i haven covering these issues for six years. and today really felt like a breakthrough, the notion that president trump who campaigned on law and order hasc atually thrown his weight behind a plan that would reduce some prison sentences for convicted dug criminals. it say big deal. if one advocate told me iis a nixon close to china moment we derl see if majority lea mitch mcconnell in the senate actually makes the time to get this done this area. we know pauryan who is leaving the house at the end of this congress has made it a priority. so a eyes are on thesenate at this point. >> woodruff: one thing that has changed is the departure of attorney former foarn general jeff sessions. we know he was very opposed to this. is his absence now going to make a difference? >> i think it is aningful, judy. acting attorney general matt whitaker is not opposed to that. jeff sessions really dug

mark holden, welcome back to the fushour.nks for having me. >> we heard a little bit just now from president trump about wh this represents. what more can you tell us would be the main difference if this legislation were to pass. >> well, if the federal level wh really haven a lot of reforms that have been rehabilitative and redemp shif, is what i say. it's scaled back some of the d moaconian parts of our criminal justice system. so the first sep act is wit is called. and its focused first on prison rehabilitation programs. so for people in federal prisons getting better in ison, not getting worse, so there would be jobs, skills training, rehabilita and those things. these are evidence-based practices that have been shown to work in the ates, to reduce crime rate and reduce incarceratofn rates. alhis has happened in the states and now it's working to the federal system as well. there is also, that passed in the house 360 to 359 back in the may. now this bill that was announced today is the senate version and they have added f

host: mark holden. guest: this is the first step act. this is not the intermediate step or the final step. there is so much that needs to happen. so much that needs to be fixed. you have to start somewhere. this is a good start. people call it modest. i say it is major. we have not had comprehensive federal criminal justice reform legislation in my lifetime. this will be a big first step. these other issues need to be addressed as well. there was a time and money. fixing the system is one thing, fixing education, communities, there is a lot more that needs to happen. this is essential. we are behind at federal level with what the states have done. we're hopeful this will happen before the end of the year. in thehat were you doing prison employment? guest: i was a present guard in massachusetts. i was a guard. a number ofg over people i grew up with, kids i grew up with in the same neighborhood. they dropped off in middle school. i had forgotten about them and didn't see them in high school and i saw them when i was working in prison. the

freedomp this morning, partners mark holden discusses bipartisan criminal justice reform legislation. and author chris whipple talks about presidents trumps post-midterms shakeup. then, share our strengths lisa davis on the hungry campaign to combat childhood hunger. be sure to watch c-span's washington journal, live at 7 a.m. eastern. join the discussion. >> coming up this morning, it is prime minister's question in the british house of commons. theresa may takes questions from members of parliament with brexit and the prime minister's tentative agreement with the eu. that is live, beginning at 7 a.m. eastern on c-span two. >> who was martin van buren? >> good question. a lot of people probably need to ask the question. martin van buren was the eighth president of the united states. .e is often forgotten his presidency was only four years on -- long. >> sunday at q&a, the biography of martin van buren. >> he spent a lot of time with ehrenberg, and there were -- , there were a lot of rumors that martin van buren may have been the illegitimate son burke.nberg -- aaron we will never kno

host: mark holden. guest: this is the first step act.s is not the intermediate step or the final step. there is so much that needs to happen. so much that needs to be fixed. you have to start somewhere. this is a good start. people call it modest. i say it is major. we have not had comprehensive federal criminal justice reform legislation in my lifetime. this will be a big first step. these other issues need to be addressed as well. there was a time and money. fixing the system is one thing, fixing education, communities, there is a lot more that needs to happen. this is essential. we are behind at federal level with what the states have done. we're hopeful this will happen before the end of the year. in thehat were you doing prison employment? guest: i was a present guard in massachusetts. i was a guard. a number ofg over people i grew up with, kids i grew up with in the same neighborhood. they dropped off in middle school. i had forgotten about them and didn't see them in high school and i saw them when i was working in prison. they dr

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coming up wednesday morning, freedom partners mark holden discusses bipartisan criminal justice reform legislation recently endorsed by president trump and author chris whipple talks about president trump's consideration of a post-mid-term shakeup among white house staff an cabinet members. then share our strength's lisa davis on the group's no kid hungry campaign to combat child hunger in the u.s. be sure to watch c-span's "washington journal," live at 7:00 eastern, wednesday morning. join the discussion. >> coming up, thanksgiving weekend on the c span networks. on c-span, thursday at 8:00 p.m. eastern, supreme court justice elena kagan followed by chief justice john roberts. friday, chris isaak tee and others discuss the open -- chris christie talks about the opioid epidemic. and sunday, gun laws and self-defense. on book tv on c-span2. thursday at 8:30 p.m. on eastern, retired yen stanley mcchrystal talks about 13 great leaders. friday at k p.m. eastern on afterwords, political writer derek hunter, saturday at 8:00 p.m. eastern, pulitzer prize winning war photographer lindsay adori

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coming up wednesday morning, discussesrtners mark: -- mark holden discusses bipartisan legislation. and president trump's consideration of a post-midterm shakeup among white house staff and cabinet members. strength's lisa davis on the hungry campaign to combat childhood hunger in the u.s. c-span'so watch "washington journal" live at 7:00 eastern wednesday morning. join the discussion. live wednesday, it is prime minister's question time in the british house of commons. prime minister theresa may takes questions from members of parliament with a focus likely to be on brexit and her tentative agreement with the eu that is. live started -- with the eu. that is life starting at 7:00 eastern on c-span 2 >> thursday -- c-span 2. >> thursday, supreme court justice elena kagan followed by john roberts, friday, chris christie and others discuss the opioid epidemic. saturday, photojournalists talk about their favorite photographs taken on the campaign trail. sunday, at 6:30 p.m., gun laws and self-defense. p.m., stanley30 mcchrystal talks about 13 great leaders. friday at 8:00 p.m. on afterw

. >> holden, you posted a picture of your own hands on instagram with xs marked on them. what does that mean? >> so the xs on my arms just indicated that i'm under 21. i had to post that because people would know, you know, i attended borderline, so i decided to take a photo of my hands just in remembrance of the borderline crucial event and decided to make my word out to everyone and just wish the best of luck. i would really like to read the post to let you guys know what i did say. >> please. >> so i put tonight in thousand oaks, california, i have just witnessed the most tragic and heart wrenching event of my life. sorry, someone is calling me. i just watched my friends got shot while i was running for my life listening to gunshots. this is our community, our families are here. we are a bunch of young adults just wanting to have innocent fun. i'm very upset that this is happening so close to home. please, everyone, pray for the ones who have been injured. i am very lucky to be alive. thank you, god, for keeping me safe. i love you all so much and then made a hashtag s