jason delisle with the american enterprise institute, and mark huelsman. we are taking your calls this hour. dj from hampton, virginia. we talk about higher education and free college. caller: good morning. first of all, i have put five children through college. they work and i worked. we did not take pell grants or anything else. if you want education, you can get one but you have to work for it and therefore the will left have huge bills when you graduate. plus, kids today are not going in for anything we really need for the country. we need engineers. we need accountants. they are going in for the arts, which is an easy way to get through college. you are not going to get a job. what is the purpose of going? i think it is a waste. i really believe in free education for a trade schools because we need plumbers, electricians, air-conditioning people. those are more important than a college education. when i worked i had people come into our business with a four-year college at a dry cleaners because they can i get a job anywhere after they got their degre