guide between 4 and 6%, oracle's nongap eps gap here between 59 and 61 creents tomorrow, we'll ask mark hurdnks about this report coming up tomorrow on sidewaqua alley, live, an exclusive. back to you. >> thank you very much, josh, and in the afterhours session here, this would be a new at least 52-week high for oracle. what do you make of this they always throw shade at each other? >> yeah, they're going to continue to throw shade at each other f. you like sales force at 54 time, you'got to love oracle he was just saying in the break, if in making the transition successfully, it's something pete has been argue iing for fo quite some time. i don't think he or anybody thought about a 10% move in the afterhour, but here we are, the point is they've made that transition now, valuation is reasonable if not cheap. i think sales force continues to go higher, but oracle is breaking to the upside >> josh brought out the metrics, it was up 66%, but the big take away to me is this is a low to mid single digit eps grow er for years. the options market, you have it up 10% it's a new all time high >> ryu