also joining us, mark jacobson, a combat veteran who served in afghanistan in 2006.e deputy nato representative and was a senior advisor to defense secretary asharter. and helene cooper is here. helene, i want to start here and broaden it out to the totity of what really amounted to an extraordinary day of public testimony today. i want to play h.r. mcmaster, donald trump's, i don't know, second of four national security advisors and he did an ierview with barry weiss describing the surrender reement, in his wos, that the last administration, mi pompeo, entered into. let's listen. >> our secretary of state signed a surnder agreement to the taliban. >> you're talking about mike pompeo? >> yes. thisollapse goes back to the catulati agreement of 2020. mean, y know the taliban didn't defeat us. we defeated ourselves. >> so, helene, i play that to broaden the lens around which we examine what happened on capitol hill today. what did you think of the sort of this line of questioning and responses up there today? >> well, hi, nicole. thanks for having me. i think you're rig