you're on with mark keisling. >> caller: good morning. >> host: turn down your tv. we can hear you. >> caller: if it's not an issue then why don't you just use your narl born gender restroom. my second question is, what's your litmus test to determine your gender? is it physical or emotional? in either case you're still what you are when you were born regardless of any surgery, regardless of any emotional change of mind. so, why the big upset on your side and insistence. >> guest: there's never been a big upset until the last couple of months. everybody has tried to use the restroom that cautioned the least amount of ruckus. simply can't use the men's room. o if i use the men's room there would be all sorts of uproar. i know folks who look like john who have beards, and a suit and tie, who these laws would make use the women's room. but when you're in the bathroomsrt with people, we don't know what is on people's birth certificates. we don't know what is in people's anatomy. i've been using restrooms for 56 years now, and i've never seen that part of people's anatom