some countries succeeded in tackling the covert virus while some clearly have not attempted dr mark konigsberg on the often of their pandemic century he gives us the comparisons internationally dr hartogs welcome back to the alex salmon show. unless the back of it so let's get to the grips for 1st question why have some countries like new zealand managed to handle extremely well while our other countries countries like the united kingdom have struggled but others again like america out of the frauds of our amounting pandemic well i think that the countries that have done well the ones that saw what was happening in china in january and took early action in case the same thing happened in their countries new zealand has done very well because it's very quickly tested checked people coming into the country you know have a good contact tracing and testing system and you know have very clear messages about you know needing to isolate yourself and also you know contacts of contacts so the country that done well is striking how many of them are in southeast asia where they had previous experience of

naturally or 'd through vaccination then there's always a chance that the virus will come back dr mark konigsberg author of the pandemic century thank you so much for joining me once again on the alex salmon show thank you so much also having me always a pleasure to talk to. the epicenter of this pandemic has moved progressively from asia to europe now to the americas the theater's africa is yet to come in each continent some countries of handled it well some badly and some very badly these differences do not depend on size nor the system of government new zealanders are a small liberal democracy and as one of the lowest deficits in the world the united kingdom is a well loved liberal democracy and as one of the highest within the united kingdom england has performed significantly worse than the other whole nations characteristic which distinguishes success from failure is the effectiveness of public health policy banning diving upon the disease countries which have an established test and trace system have done well those who haven't struggled badly one thing is certain if you stick your chin ou

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