honored to have the authors of "do more than give" here with us this evening, leslie, john and mark kramer. all of them are associated with fsg which was founded in 2000 as the foundation's strategy group which is a consulting firm that specializes in strategy, evaluation and research. today fsg works across all sectors and, frankly, around the globe. i was talking to john tonight and hearing about an effort perhaps to open an office in mumbai, they're in geneva, they're partnering with foundations, corporations, nonprofits, governments and agencies to develop effective solutions to the world's most challenging issues. fsg helps organizations individually and collectively achieve social impact by discovering ways to solve social problems. um, we like to think at the boston foundation that we're doing the same thing, so in many ways over the years we have partnered with fsg, and we're delighted to have that partnership. so tonight we're going to be meeting with these authors and having what i know is going to be a fascinating dialogue. we are proud that paul grogan is one of our panelists,

and probably in my mind the most prolific writer in the social sector today, managing director, mark kramer. [applause] >> thanks, john. i think about a simon and garfunkel concert i once went to where garfunkel suggested and filled out to be listed in alphabetical order. [laughter] so we listed the names on the book in alphabetical order so i'm the third author and so i'm the last when you get a from. i will be very, very brief because i know there are glasses of wine out there waiting for you. but i just want to acknowledge that what we're talking about here, the six practices of high impact owners, is kind of daunting. i mean, we're asking a lot of you, but i think what matters is not so much that you follow all six practices. i think anyone of them that you adopt is helpful, make sure effective as a donor. but even apart from that i think what we are talking about is a different way of thinking about your role, whether you're a donor or whether a nonprofit. and i think paul said very eloquently when he talked about focusing on solving the problem. and, you know, money matters but it isn