. >> second prize, football helmet, mark lendle of novi, minnesota. >> that's 500 bucks. >> now yourr other guests.s. who is first? yes, sir? >> my name is kenny. we know in this country there are lots of horrendous laws, but what can we as ordinary citizens do to try to fix it ourselves? >> we have become a society that looks to solve everything by passing a criminal law and at first blush, it's really themi politicians because any time something bad happens, it's easr to say, let's make another criminal law or let's make the penalties stiffer.ake but really it's us ast individuals. >> what can we do? >> we have to say to our do? politicians, don't give us more> criminal laws unless you can show what the impact is going to be. show us what benefit we're goine to get. i show us what the costs are going to be of w enforcing that. it's up to the people now to say enough. >> yes. >> i was wondering how many laws there are in america? like overall. >> too many. >> nobody knows. they can't even counts the criminal law, right? >> that's right. >> yes, sir? >> hello. i'm nick richie fromm c