mark ma mancini who specialize ms.mmigration, and john torres who from 2008-2009 was acting director of ice. what is it like in the detention centers? is there a pattern? are they roughly the same everywhere in the country? >> i've never been inside of a detention center myself. i've worked with a lot of people who have. i don't think that it's the same everywhere around the country because the standards are so hard to implement especially with private prisons. one thing that we do know is that we have lots of people who are in detention centers who are complaining about the conditions, the pay and the treatment that they're getting and lack of ability protest these things. right now in washington state, in texas there are hunger strikes happeningeinside of the detention center, and in arizona there was one where people are protesting those things. what's happening is that the detention centers are retaliating against the people who are protesting. in texas we had two organizers deported. in arizona when they were doin