>> certainly both -- matthew specifically and luke more subtly claimed that she is a virgin. mark says nothing. and john says nothing about it. and the reason that both matthew and luke introduced that particular aspect or they have a tradition that states that about mary is because they're reading the jewish bible in greek. >> the jewish bible in greek. what was the language that the -- that was translated, the original language? jesus spoke in aramaic, correct? >> probably. >> and that was first translated into hebrew? >> the jewish bible is, for the most part, in hebrew. there are a few parts in aramaic. >> then it was translated into greek for the common man. >> for the greek-speaking common jew in minus 200. >> ok. now, it's your contention, is it not, that when the translation occurred between hebrew and greek there was a mistake made. what was the mistake? >> you know, that's augustine's contention too, i'm in good company. >> you mean the saint? >> yes. yes. >> of hippo? >> yes, one of my favorites. this is something that greek-speaking christians were aware of as early as