mark mckinnon: yeah. me thing for hillary clinton, i get anyone i want, who would she picked? mark mckinnon: colin powell, condoleezza rice. mark mckinnon: the interesting thing in this equation is the conventional route to go is to shore up your weakness, do something that gives you geographic diversity, ethnic diversity, ideologically diversity. , there is some value to the notion that going unconventional, go the bill clinton route, double down on your strength, find somebody who is also a maverick unconventional. so i think they will see that valuable for trump. mark: mark mckinnon of the circus. when we come back, a very special presentation from a friend of the show, jeff daniels. after this word from our sponsors. ♪ john: a couple days ago, a friend of the show, jeff daniels stopped by the set for a little interview. he was previously the star of the things including hbo's newsroom in which he played a news anchor. if you have nothing that show, you have probably seen the most famous scene from the

add in mark to the equation, the great mark mckinnon. >> hats off to our next guest, mark mckinnon, former advisor to john mccain and cohost on the showtime show. thank you for coming. ask you to look into the soul of donald trump and then hillary clinton. trump is kind of reading his situation now. classic situation where you get somewhere on your own instincts and got and everybody tries to say you have to leave, you have to pivot. have your family saying let donald b donald. he has that dynamic going and the reflexes to be donald trump and what brought him here, which is what we continue to do. saying, onebeen thousand decisions he has to make in a short period of time. you have to get a convention up and going, get a vp pick. they can be thinking about message and strategy, he has all this blocking and tackling. they have been a leading arguer to say we need to bring in this. familythey can take some . the best thing that can happen to any candidate is lose an election. that there are only two ways to run. which is to run scared and run a opposed. she and the whole campaign understand

mark: we add in mark to the equation, the great mark mckinnon. ♪ mark hats off to our next guest, : mark former media advisor to john mccain and cohost on the showtime show. thank you for coming. you have been her and candidates of both parties. let me just ask you to look into the soul of donald trump and then hillary clinton. what is your read on how trump is kind of reading his situation now? mark: it is a classic situation where you get somewhere on your own instincts and got and everybody tries to say you have to leave, you have to pivot. you have your family saying let donald b donald. you have other people say you got to be presidential. he has that dynamic going and the reflex is to be donald trump and what brought him here, which is what we continue to do. as you have been saying, one thousand decisions he has to make in a short period of time. that is the biggest challenge, almost a logistical you have to one. get a convention up and going, get a vp pick. this is something that clinton already has locked and loaded. they can be thinking about message and strategy, he has all th

the issues and crises of race in america. >> rose: politics with mark halperin, john helleman, mark mckinnon, music with mark ronson and looking at the o bat am-- obama presidency with michael eric dyson when we continue. >> funding for charlie rose is provided by the following: >> and by bloomberg, a provider of multimedia news and information services worldwide. captioning sponsored by rose communications from our studios in new york city, this is charlie rose. >> so let me just start with the guy in the middle, halperin, tell me right now, right now, what of the five most important questions about the political year that we are in. >> five? >> rose: take ten. tell me what are the most important that you are in search of. obviously we know one of them is going to be what is going to happen when donald trump talks to paul ryan. but i'm interested in the bigger questions, in terms of what trump's strategy might be. who is he going to choose for a running mate. who is hillary going to choose for a running mate, what is her strategy going to be. does trump have a serious chance, is there a pat

gop's battle for unity when we walk with political watchers john heilemann, mark halperin, and mark mckinnon of "the circus." >>> north carolina has raised the stakes in its fight with the federal government over transgender rights. as omar villafranca reports from raleigh, the governor is nowhere close to backing down. >> reporter: u.s. attorney general loretta lynch took the podium to say the state of north carolina had violated federal laws. >> they created state-sponsored discrimination against transgender individuals who simply seek to engage in the most private of functions in a place of safety and security, a right taken for granted by most of us. >> reporter: governor pat mccrory filed his own lawsuit, accusing the federal government of overreaching its authority. >> we believe a core, rather than a federal agency, should tell our state, our nation, and employers across the country what the law requires. >> reporter: the doj sent a letter to north carolina officials last week and warned them that if the state didn't comply, the government could withhold billions of federal dollars ea

donny: and you had some great ones this week, i need it done, mark mckinnon, and jeff daniels.let you go back to the airport without an answer -- >> because he's not the best case scenario, john, that's my answer. donny: nice throwback to the newsroom. i love the show, season three ok. there is one story you did not cover. alienser you believe in or not, but one presidential candidate cannot seem to stop talking about them. so is hillary clinton winning the ufo demographic? donny: guys, get on this. aliens, martians. this is big. i have been on since 2004. get on up to speed. >> if you are a martian, you want to really understand who we are as a culture. who we are as a society in the year 2004. it is an ad. anny: we will soon have added of donald trump posing as a fake pr guy in the early 1990's. you cannot make this up. >> john barron is on the phone for you? donny: john? john barron? johnny boy? i have not heard from you for a while. what have you got for me? mark: donny deutsch keeping us honest. katie couric is here to talk about the week. >> high. hi,: so, lindsey graham

john heilemann, mark mckinnon, and mark halperin are getting exclusive access."the circus." >> you don't seem tired at all. i don't understand that. how is it you're not exhausted? >> when you're 36 years of age, it's not that hard. >> i want you to think about this. i want you to want me. >> unlike traveling with bernie sanders where you're on his train, there's no candidate on this plane. she's on another plane. she's in the bubble, tough to get through, tough to get access. are you worried at all new hampshire is not a lot like texas like it was in >> it will get bumpy in a couple minutes. >> i've known pretty well, but i did not know his pension for horrible jokes. >> did you hear about the fight in the seafood restaurant? two battered fish. >> i have a name for her, but i'm not going to use it. >> come on, come on. >> you know what it is? give us a hint. >> "the circus" airs on showtime, a division of cbs. we're pleased you're here at the table. let me begin with these polls. what does it say to you guys? >> it's going to be a fascinating election, as it ha

mark mckinnon. we, of course. >> so lalaura, tell us about th book and why you wrote it? park service was the perfect time to do a book about great big backyard and all the wonderful parks we have in the united states. of course our little protagonist tied to video screens of various types. her mother wants her to look up. her mother plans this great american road trip. >> that's great. jen jenna. >> she does the work. >> i wrote it in maternity leave, thought about my fondest memories with my dad and my mom and they were spent outdoors. geez, now all we're doing instead of looking out the windows is looking down at our phones. i don't want a world where our kids don't get to get outside and see the beauty of nature. wrote it, working with former librarian and first lady and your mother, the boss lady, are you kidding? >> that's intimidating. >> don't ever end your sentence with a preparation. >> imagine writing speeches for your dad with her watchful eye. i remember worrying that we were imposing on you when you took these vacations every year during president bush's pre

mark mckinnon, brilliant ad maker. he took this video of him wind surfing and put it to music.narrative, either negative or positive about a candidate, you feel like you've won the lottery. donald trump seemed to combat this story yesterday and the tools of social media seem to make it easier for candidates to combat and dismantle the narrative. >> february 4th, 1992, when "the times" comes out with a front page paper, who are we to object? how are we to protest? you have even the subjects of the article coming out and saying that's not what i was trying to convey about mr. trump when they interviewed me. they told me it was going to be something different. and now if she can protest about that once it can be retweeted a million times. you have a constant echo chamber and check process against what journalism is these days, which has both good and bad elements. in this case, i think trump had his army coming right to bat for him to say that you can't do it like 1992 anymore. you can't just put that picture on the front page of "the times" with enough copy around it to create a