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we have a powerful lineup for you this evening, including governor mike huckabee, bill bennett, mark mckinnon and mark halprin. but first we go to trace gallagher in the west coast newsroom to walk us through how we got to this moment. trace? >> from our research it appears that donald trump first dipped his toe in the birther issue in 2011 when he was considering running for president in 2012. he told cpac quote our current president came out of nowhere. the people who went to school with him, they never saw him. they don't know who he is. it's crazy. a month later he told bill o'reilly that president obama doesn't have a birth certificate and later told nbc news that he was sending a team of investigators to hawaii to investigate. in april of 2011 president obama who had already released a short form birth certificate in 2008 decided to release the long form saying it was time to put the issue to rest. and even though the trump campaign is now taking credit for president obama releasing his long form in 2011, donald trump continued for years to claim that obama was not a u.s. citizen. as la

mark mckinnon, great to meet you and how are you mr. vice president? >> good to see a. there were a lot of jokes about the vice presidency through history, the oldest is about the two brothers and one went out to see and the other became vice president and neither was heard from again. it is much more than that. >> kenny tell us what it was you aren you learned going to be the vice presidential nominee? >> i was walking back to the hotel and we had beepers in those days and a beeper went off so i got back to the hotel and got the phone number and call it -- darn, iim basic lost. >> expecting to get bad news? >> yes, i was expecting vice president so when it was baker you assumed -- he said, hang on for the veep, the vice president. on and said i would like to offer you the vice presidency. i said, what is my assignment? he said he need to shop at the spanish plaza at 4:00 and it was 2:00 and i said where the heck is the spanish plaza? he said i don't know, but this is your first assignment so do not screw it up. nixon said "i was about your is when eisenhower came to me

joining me now, mark mckinnon, co-creator and co-host of the circus. good to see you.with her as she now does a little bit of making herself accessible. first of all, do you think we're going to see more of that? and second of all, how is she, in your opinion, out there on the campaign trail? >> well the first question is you know i think she's going to do a lot more. she did it the first day, and then she came out and did it the second day. i think it cross-pressures donald trump. and the thing that surprised me -- i mean and i think a lot of other people and should reinforce the fact that she does it more is she was very good. i mean in the q&a and back and forth with reporters, she's as good as i've seen with presidential candidates. she was relaxed, and she was knowledgeable, and there was no problem, which makes you wonder why does she wait 270 days. my prediction now is she will do a lot of it and that that will help her. my sense from the whole campaign is they're not going to lean back. they're leaning in. they're not going to be cautious. they know this is a t

and the stylish mark mckinnon. thank you all for being with us here tonight. mr. halpern, i'm going to begin with you because i watched your broadcast tonight and i watched you talk about, a, the unforced errors in the trump campaign, and b, the kind of traveling bubble that can take over a campaign that prides himself for being unlike other campaigns. >> it's written by steve banon, dave bossy, the campaign manager is part of that right movement that looks at press coverage on channels like this and says, this will pass. this is a succession of liberals. it does not define this campaign. right now i think donald trump is in the position president obama was in four years ago. that is until the debate, people are in limbo. people are going to point to unhappiness in the campaign, his forcefulness in the debate. he can tread water, he can get back, but what nbc has been reporting is, will he actually change? the reason people speak out is they're worried he will not change, he will not take seriously that he needs to prepare for the next debate. >> if you were to re

mark mckinnon, great to meet you and how are you, mr. vice president?a lot of jokes about the vice presidency that come through our history. one is the one about two brothers and one went out to see a and the other became vice president and neither was heard from again. it is much more than that. >> can you tell us what it was like when you got a call and learned you are the vice presidential nominee? >> i was walking back to the hotel, and we had beepers in those days, we did not have cell phones. the beeper went off, so i got back to the hotel, got the phone number, call it, and i get jim baker. i go, darn, i lost. >> expecting to get bad news? >> yes, i was expecting vice president george bush to call me. >> so when it was baker, you assumed -- >> he said, hang on for the veep, the vice president. so the vice president gets on and says, "i would like to offer you the vice presidency." i said, what is my assignment? he said "you need to show up at the spanish plaza at 4:00," and it was 2:00, and i said where the heck is the spanish plaza? he said, "i

the word, mark mckinnon is incoherent. he goes to mexico, says there's going to be a softening.t night, delivers fire and brim stone against illegal immigrants. the next day he goes on lauraenilaura's show and says there will ab softening. he wants to get to a place where he allows -- legalize undocumented workers here who are not breaking the law. that seems where he wanted to be for two weeks but he's zigzagging. >> unclear and that's problematic not only for general but base voters. the support he got in the primaries was because a strong, bold, and this is not strong or bold. >> his base is staying with him. >> that's not enough to get enough of those general election voters over the top. >> ku win -- >> i think they made a decision in the base election. >> he could get elected president of the united states -- >> i think trying to make it 2004 election. >> in fact, donald trump can be the next president of the united states with 43% of the vote. >> no, i think they will make it a 2004 election. they decided they don't care about the sort of middle, they are going straight t

and they said actually, mark mckinnon apparently had studied all these tapes of al gore and told hime's personal space so don't be surprised if he comes in on you. now the reaction of the president's was natural but that moment is actually credited with helping president bush win the vote of -- well the question of who would you rather have a beer with. >> that was great. >> that is the story -- >> -- before you go on let me just come back on that which is then the famous moment everybody is talking about today with regard to hillary clinton is rick lazio in the senate campaign. lazio walks into hillary clinton's personal space and it is taken that that drove hooints numbers way up because women saw it as such a personal offense. >> afterwards the campaign blew it up as fazio's buhling. >> so trump should do that. >> -- potentially a negative about his age into a positive and also showed his sense of humor so it sort of like wiped it away. like when you use dawn to do the dishes. >> one of the others is 1960, nixon. the first time i think it was televise and he fused to wear make up

this pass episode on sunday, mark mckinnon set down with conversations with two men that comes the numberoe lieberman. >> because hillary clinton got sick, it shines the spotlight on the importance of the role the vice president plays, one heartbeat away from the presidency. how are you? great to meet you. how are you, mr. vice president? ♪ >> how are you old friend? good to see. ♪ >> you know, there were a lot of jokes about the vice presidency. one of the oldest is about the two brothers, one went off to sea and the other went to become vice president and they were never heard from again. >> it is much more than that. >> can you tell us why when you got the call and you learned you would be the vice presidential nominee? >> i was walking back to the hotel. the beeper went off with a call. i get back to the hotel, get the phone number and i call it and take it jim baker. darn, i have lost. >> expecting bad news? >> yes because of his expecting the president to call. vice president gets on and he says, i would like to offer you officially the vice presidency. i said, what is my assignment

back with me james ballos and mark mckinnon. we were talking about this as you were shooting your documentary series, a show time, the circus. it pulls back the curtain on the 2016 race and you pull back the curtain. >> we think the first debate will be the most watched television event in history and probably the single greatest driver of this election. >>> you really think donald trump has the temperament to be commander-in-chief? >> given the nature of these characters, that debate is going to be such a showdown. >> terrorism and weakness, this is the legacy of hillary clinton. >> this will be the last best chance either of these candidates have to either enhance their support or blow it up. >> interesting. we discussed it, i ran into it in a restaurant you were shooting the episode and we discussed it. that new episode airs sunday at 8:00 p.m. you say last night's debate was the single greatest driver of the outcome of the election. if that is the case, is it game over for trump or can he turn it around when he faces off aga

for that episode, our co-host, mark mckinnon, sat down for conversations with two men, who know fromth being number two. former vice president dan quayle, who served under george herbert walker bush, and al gore's 2000 running mate, joe lieberman. >> because hillary got sick this week and had to go off the trail, it shined the spotlight on the importance the vice president plays as one who's a heartbeat away from the presidency. how are you? markckinnon, great to meet you. how are you, mr. vice president? >> hey, buddy! good to see you. >> you know, there are a lot of jokes about the vice presidency, that comes from our history. one of the oldest is the two brothers. one went off to see, the other became vice president, and neither was ever heard from again. you know? but, it's much more than that. >> can you tell us what it was like, when you go the call, and you learned that you were the vice presidential nominee? >> i was walking back to the hotel and we had beepers in those days, we didn't have cell phone. this beeper came off, said a call was coming in. got back to the hotel, gi

bush and co-creator and executive producer of "the circus" on showtime, mark mckinnon. and in washington columnist at the washington examiner, kristin anderson. >> i think it's almost baked in the cake. donald trump has steadfastly refused to release his tax returns. he steadfastly refused to release his medical records and all the trend lines are in his direction right now. i mean, i will tell you, though i don't think it's great for america, if i were running his campaign, i would also tell him do not talk to print reporters anymore and do the sort of long form interviews you did with bob costa because it always gets you in trouble. do not go and do free form radio interviews because it always gets you in trouble. look at the campaigns of barack obama in 2008 and 2012. they didn't open barack obama up to a lot of interviews. he shaped his own message, he framed his own message, and you didn't get a lot of free shots at him so he didn't make a lot of his own mistakes. i actually think trump has actually been hurt by being as accessible at times. >> it reminds me of joh

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mckinnon will be back to play hilary clinton. no doubt the election will take center stage for that season premiere. >> anchor: that's right. the snl season premiere is this saturday night. mark barger has a preview. >> reporter: saturday night live has already given us a tease. alec baldwin joining kate mckinnon for the show's take on this week's debate. >>> i'm glad i am not one of the writers that has to take on all of the political material funnier than what is being said. >>> donald trump hosted the show last season in the early days of the presidential campaign and hilary clinton made an appearance alongside her snl alter ego. >>> she has got a wonderful -- she is actually a very good comedian. >> reporter: a show with a decade's long tradition of turning politics into punch lines. >>> i can see russia from my house. >> reporter: has another chance to put its spin on a presidential election. >>> both the clinton campaign and trump campaign are definitely going to be their candidates are portrayed them may not have any say in how they come off, but they certainly care. >> reporter: it puts even more attention on the season premiere and host marriage oh robi. the suicide

brian williams has mark happen person and mike mckinnon to react to the breaking campaign news tonightat donald trump really believes debate performance. "the 11th hour" with brian williams is live and it's next. >>> tonight donald trump still brews from the debate, but fighting back on the trail and weighing in again tonight on the former miss universe who is waging her own battle against his campaign. >>> another aleppo moment for gary johnson. his candidacy could have a serious impact on this race, but did he just seriously impact his own chances? >>> and hillary clinton struggling to connect with an important part of the electorate brings a big name back on the stage. "the 11th hour" begins now. >>> hello and good evening from our new york headquarters. today hillary clinton said something that all candidates would have to agree with, not subj