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yep fair enough. >> mark mckinnon for us this morning, mark, i always very grateful.ax case active on the show. thanks for being here as we were just discussing stormy daniels is headed back to the witness stand in donald trump's hush money trial in just a few hours with the former president's legal team cross-examining the adult film star are a source telling cnn that trump's lawyers are planning a longer and more harsh cross-examination to help protect trump's reputation after daniels raised the possibility that her alleged 22,006 sexual encounter with trump was not entirely consensual. she told us accusers on tuesday that after agreeing to have dinner with trump, he greeted her at his hotel silk or satin pajamas with daniels adding that she joked with trump. >> does mr. hefner know you stole his pajamas and later after daniels went to the bathroom, trump was on the bed between her and the exit in just a t-shirt and boxer shorts. daniels also detailed and incident involving a magazine that she previously disclosed to anderson cooper in 2018 interview it started off

mark mckinnon is a former adviser to president george w.ohn mccain, and creator of the political documentary series "the circus." what else do we know about vice president harris going right into that territory where today is a very very consequential day for abortion rights? >> absolutely, chris. that's why the biden campaign wanted her to be there to make this case in person and talk about the significant ramifications, and it's notable in her prepared remarks for this speech. she is set to name check former president, something like 18 times, which we are told is the highest amount that she has ever referred to donald trump in a speech like this throughout this election cycle. it really does speak to the reason that they want the vice president out front on this, which she has been really leading the charge from a messenger perspective when it comes to reproductive freedom and raising questions about getting more access to abortion rights. she has been talking about this really since the fall of roe in that post dobbs era, but it takes o

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with me is mark mckinnon.orge w bush, as well as for former senator and presidential candidate john mccain. great to have you in the studio. why have a debate so early on in the election calendar before the conventions have even confirmed the candidates?— have even confirmed the candidates? ~ , ., ., candidates? well, first of all, this is the _ candidates? well, first of all, this is the smartest _ candidates? well, first of all, this is the smartest thing - candidates? well, first of all, this is the smartest thing the | this is the smartest thing the biden campaign has done the whole campaign, it makes sense strategically, tactically, there was no wayjoe biden could go the entire election and not debate donald trump. by announcing it now he takes away all that average from trump, who would have had months of pounding on biden as being weak and i abates, by doing an early this helps biden reinforced his notion of strength and that's the most important perception for a presidential candidate is dragged and by

i'm getting to mark mckinnon. the msnbc podcast to win with claire and the guy in the hat political strategist mark mckinnon is looking sharp. >> i think when we have a roast of you, willie, we should have -- you need to get this nicki laser, that's for sure. then maybe mark mckinnon to play cleanup there. what do you think? >> he is a mild-mannered generous guy. i don't know if you're a big roaster. would you do well in a roaster? >> you haven't seen the wild side of me. >> nicki laser of our table. >> why would tom brady -- he's got all of the money he needs -- why would tom brady agree to that roast? >> i don't get it. >> a lot of laughs but savage stuff there. why would he agree to that roast? >> a lot of people, their feelings were hurt. >> there was some pretty brutal stuff. that is how roasts work, mika. i did not watch it. i couldn't bring myself. i felt so bad for tom. part of it was pretty funny. i saw some clips. he spoke at the end. he was skeward and people were upset about some things. why? he is tra

mark mckinnon, former adviser to george w bush and former u.s. attorney joyce vance who spent 25 years as a federal prosecutor. molly, trumps attorneys will have had 36 hours to pull their next strategy together for stormy daniels on the stand tomorrow. what are you looking for? >> the female defense lawyer is the best lawyer trump has but she has really just been trotted out for this stormy daniels cross, so i think it will be really interesting to see. i read some reporting from people who work in the courthouse that said perhaps the jury did not love her beating up on the witness, and i have read other reporting that there have been other cases for their -- she has been hard on female witnesses. i'm not sure that place in the way she is hoping it will. again, this is a jury case so you have a jury to appeal to. >> mark, how hard do you think trumps team is going to go after stormy daniels, especially when you think about his demands on his attorneys and all the gory details she went into yesterday? >> i think they're going to be pretty aggress

prosecutor, elliot williams, jonah goldberg, the co-founder and editor in chief, the dispatch, and mark mckinnon, former adviser to george w bush and to john mccain. welcome to all of you good morning. mark. you've written this about these debates. you say, quote, i view that challenged throat down as a classic master stroke for biden. i know from experience, the most important asset of candidate can have is the perception of strength. the worst thing they can have is the perception of weakness, which is what biden was dealing with until this morning, of course, wrote that yesterday, is this not also an acknowledgement from the biden team that they were behind and they needed to do something to shake up this race yeah. that's that's how you win elections okay. now is the obvious you get an extra, you gotta tumor, you'd say take the chemo yeah. exactly. >> so what do you think he needs to? they, must be confident that he can actually step up to the plate because this is not without risk, is absolutely high risk, but i think first of all, what's the other option a. that he doesn't debate, right. a

so this is what mark mckinnon wrote in the atlantic about this quote, i view the challenge, throw down as a strategic master stroke for biden shore, a debate could ensure his defeat at the president's unable to rise to the oratorical occasion. but i think that there's a strong argument. it's the only way he can win the election and most importantly, it shows confidence i know from experience, the most important asset of presidential candidate can have is the perception of strength and the worst thing they can have as a perception of weakness which is what biden was dealing with until this morning. it does also seem to potentially acknowledge that they needed this the biden campaign needed this, that they were, but they are national polling. we've got some new fox news pulling out this morning as well. the biden has been behind it. what what do you how do you think this is going to impact the race? >> well, i think that this shows that the biden campaign is and the democratic party really in general are entirely on biden here and there's not really seeing any significant downsides to de