we're in the middle of a wonderful conversation about a project with rabbi mark melamed. welcome back, mark. >> thank you. >>> the cafe' is called sunrise, sunset referenced to the scene in the song from the movie fidler on the roof. >> right. >> and so you were talking about how basically it is a gathering for the entire community to come and hang out and getting to know each other with the arts. >> yes. we're starting with the core of the community that will be helpers and using the word maven so an expert in the area. some are baking mavens. some are programming mavens and they will help build a team for the cafe'. it is open to anyone and we're hoping to build an extra spot in the sunset three blocks from ocean beach where people may come by once in awhile for coffee and an opportunity to be together. we have two opening dates roo it now. we're not going monday through friday but the first night is monday may 30th 7:30 to 9:30. when fred plays violin it makes me cry, it is so beautiful. he will play sha bott melodies. >> we'll have the musician doing a blues version of