general we hear and even from european countries it is very good, well, in the same interview , mark milley all american skeptics with natural and artificial created warmed up i would say so about the fact that military aid will reduce the pentagon's own military reserves. he said that not in any way, in fact, in the united states of america there is even a program according to which the production is increased , the production of ammunition and weapons is increased in order to compensate for what washington already provided to us in ukraine, in poland, 16 spies who worked for russian intelligence were detained. all of them were members of a single network. this was reported by the deputy minister of the coordinator of the service of the commonwealth of independent states, stanislav zharyn, he also reported that the polish law enforcement officers also managed to discover the algorithm of actions of all the recruits, the main activity of the network consisted in recognizing military facilities and critical infrastructure in poland , monitoring and documenting the transportation of military

i want to read this quote, this is from mark milley.e said quoting today to jennifer griffin, i trust the army, navy and marine corps did the best they could in briefing the families that had loved ones killed at abbey gate. i believe the briefers gave every piece of information that they could. do you believe that all the forks was there or do you agree with other families that it wasn't about the information. it was about the warnings that were ignored? >> me personally, he did not -- the brief report was not correct. they changed my son's location a couple of times. they were trying to accommodate his wounds that were not in the right spot of his body according to the autopsy report. he did not -- the brief report is nothing what we were actually told. i don't believe that they had any -- it was made up. i feel it was made-up stories that they were trying to cover up the wounds. >> trace: yeah. is it frustrating for you? i'm going to play sound from admiral john kirby. the pentagon spokesman at the time. is it frustrating that they c

general mark milley, chair of the joint chiefs calling ukraine's counteroffensive bloody and slower thaners had thought. for all the damaged russian weaponry on display here to mark ukraine's independence day, ukrainians in that counteroffensive are paying with their lives to try and retake their land. we asked ukrainian president zelenskyy about the counteroffensive and continuing u.s. support. how confident are you in your strategy right now? what are you doing to reassure your allies and is there a plan b? zelenskyy saying next year could be very difficult, and calling u.s. lawmakers who want to cut aid to ukraine as dangerous voices in congress. adding his team will give all its time and energy to help maintain u.s. support calling the counteroffensive a difficult task. tom soufi burridge, abc news, kyiv. >> martha: our thanks to tom soufi burridge for that. joining us now is colonel steve ganyard who investigated aircraft mishaps for the marine corps and served as an official in the state department, and julia ioffe a russian-born journalist who emigrated as a child. welcome to you

. >> reporter: and tonight, the joint chiefs chair mark milley saying that the briefers have given the families, quote, every piece of information that they could, but saying that they do owe them accountability lester >> all right, ryan, thank you. >>> in just 60 seconds, the pause on student loan interest accrual ends in a matter of days what happens to borrowers who can't or won't pay? >>> back now with a ticking clockfor student loan borrowers. payments are set to resume in october. but as brian cheung reports, some say they can't afford to pay, and others say they won't >> reporter: josie bridges is a single mom living paycheck to paycheck it's hard enough dealing with rising prices at the store. s. >> my student payments are sitting right now at about $400, is what they're expecting each month. so, i mean, that's my food budget right there >> reporter: the pandemic freeze on student loan payments allowed josie to open up her own salon in portland, oregon, but with $4,000 in outstanding debt from her community college degree, she says she simply won't be able to make the monthly p

in the couch, there's a four-page report typed up by mark milley himself. it shows the general's own plan to attack iran. the draft reads, when president trump found this plan in his old files this morning, he pointed out that making this declassified would probably win his case. but those words did not appear in the final version of the book. according to sources, meadows told investigators he directed that the reference to trump possessing a classified war plan be taken out of his book and that he knew it would be, quote, problematic if trump had such a document in his possession. a trump campaign spokesman responded to our new reporting by accusing the doj and special counsel jack smith of, quote, selectively leaking incomplete information without providing evidence. and called the investigation a witch hunt meant to hurt trump's political campaign. joining us now our legal form, former u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york, former trump justice department spokesperson. and, first, let's turn to abc senior reporter catherine falders who bro

chairman of the committee of the chiefs of staff of the armed forces of the united states of america, mark milley in one of the sections of his interview, well, that was then when brown was just being introduced to the new head of the corresponding structure, he uh, that's roughly how i don't remember the details. that's how he roughly described the current situation, that the current war in ukraine makes it possible to calculate the future configuration of the armed forces and its industrial and technical components provision further, he continues that it is obvious that in the current format part of the troops will remain as they are, but it is obvious that artificial intelligence and such components as drones, including the armored vehicles of aviation of naval units, they will to increase, and that's why it's good that mr. zelensky or those who are close to him have such ideas, because they understand very well that the current situation shows that , in principle, industry is not capable of fully meeting the needs of the current war, this means that we need to sit down at the negotiating tabl

this is what us chief of staff mark milley does not understand, this is one huge trap for ukrainians, russian armed forces is to strike at ukrainian forces, thereby weakening them in the process of attacking the first line. the russian defenses after that , the russian soldiers will retreat to the second line. by luring everyone into a zone where they will fall into the fire cauldron, which will eliminate them , the massacre of civilians, intimidation and violence is the reality that, according to the american journalist patrick lancaster, the key american media is hushing up the reporter stressed that it is very difficult for him to watch this picture every day, but this is precisely the reason why he still stays to work when i get into shelled areas. i ask people why he's her look, ukraine shelling civilians is the most common answer, to intimidate people is terror and the local population sees kiev's actions as terrorists? attacks the only thing that allows ukraine to exist is western arms supplies, therefore it is the western weapons are killing civilians here in donetsk and in ge

there was a publication in washington in which the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, general mark milleynt of the offensive and, among other things, i only on one drew attention to the fact that he said that the military has very big problems, and i understood that the military and political leadership of russia, which is now trying to solve many issues at once , and the fall in the level of the ruble, yes, and various events in the international arena including the fact that putin was still afraid to go to the brics meeting. yes , to south africa. that's all. well, everything is interconnected, it's such a huge interconnected pressure, and here i think that they are in such a situation here some solutions. yes, for example, the protection of the crimean bridge is still a chaotic tactical paradisiacal effort that they are trying to carry out , despite the fact that everyone understands that today ukraine can attack , say, with sea drones, tomorrow with air drones, and the day after tomorrow, god forbid, with cruise missiles, for example, taurus, german ones, or british stormtroopers or f

500 meters , and sometimes a kilometer, the head of the joint chiefs of staff of the usa, general mark milley that during two months of fierce fighting, the armed forces of ukraine were able to break through the enemy's defense line, our soldiers entered the village of robotine in zaporizhzhia and set up the ukrainian flag from the robot's main course to tokmak, but before that we still have to overcome the enemy's main line of defense, our fighters immediately started to evacuate the locals from the robot's house, because the russians are shelling the village with artillery, they took people out on a bradley infantry fighting vehicle, which can withstand mine explosions and direct hitting enemy artillery in the area, the battles are still going on, our soldiers are getting entrenched. it was all in better conditions , not in this one, but daughter anu, hello doll, daughter , we were taken out, my daughter, i know, i know, don't cry, we it's already seven o'clock, i'm home starchenko, i think it's okay, i think we'll see each other soon , you know very well, psychologically it was very diffic

day, and sometimes kilometer, the head of the joint chiefs of staff of the united states, general mark milleynounced that during two months of fierce fighting, the armed forces of ukraine were able to break through the enemy's defense line, our soldiers entered the village of robotine in zaporizhzhia and set up the ukrainian flag from the robot's main course to tokmak, but before that we still have to overcome the enemy's main line of defense, our fighters immediately started to evacuate the locals from the robot's house, because the russians are shelling the village with artillery, they took people out on a bradley infantry fighting vehicle that can withstand mine explosions and direct enemy artillery hits in the area, the battles are still going on, our soldiers are getting entrenched. this was all in better conditions , not in such conditions, crying, we are already seven, already at home , i think yes, it is okay, i think that soon i'll see you, mitko, they taught you here, there were stops, there was water, then there was no water, then they ran between the shots, a little dripped potato

in the near future, the chairman said of the joint chiefs of staff of the united states, general mark milley, meanwhile, the commander of the air force from and sumy-kolo oleschuk reported that ukrainian pilots are already undergoing training on f-16 fighters in great britain and sweden to start the training of our pilots to sign the relevant protocols now waiting and bucharest this was reported by the prime minister of romania , marcel-celaco, in an interview with the fainenje times, he also emphasized that the necessary logistics for this have already been established, and a joint european decision on the supply must be made taurus long-range missiles to ukraine this statement was made by the head of the german christian democratic union, friedrich merz, in an interview with the german tv channel art. by this decision , the german politician primarily means a joint position with france and great britain, which already supply ukraine with their long-range missiles. this is my proposal. i hope that the german government will listen to it and implement it, said the leader of the hds. i will r

america's top general, mark milley, confirming that ukrainian advance, but admitting on jordanian tv ukraine's progress and its counteroffensive is slower than planned. >> it's very bloody, it's slow, it's long, high-casualty producing and very, very difficult. >> reporter: and tonight, news of a bitter blow for the ukrainian air force -- three pilots killed in a training exercise, worsening the shortage of skilled pilots needed for dozens of american-made f-16 fighter jets promised to ukraine. and in russia, president putin ordering wagner mercenary fighters to swear allegiance to the russian state after that private jet belonging to wagner chief yevgeny prigozhin disintegrated midair. rachel? >> rachel: tom, thank you. >>> back here at home, reflection and emotion in the nation's capital. as the march on washington turns 60. young and old and people from all different backgrounds among the thousands gathering on the national mall today. alongside them, ambassador andrew young, one of the organizers of the original march and a close adviser of mlk jr. >> reporter: tonight, thousands

too early to judge the successes, it is obvious that so far partial success has been achieved, mark milley noted , the speed of the attack was slower than i thought , but this is not uncommon in war, because war on paper is different from war in reality , the military leader said that when people die on earth, tanks and anti-personnel armor are destroyed , you pass through real dragon windows and real mines, things go slower because people's lives are at stake, meanwhile until the head of the turkish ministry of internal affairs, hakan fidan, came to kyiv and he already met with our president volodymyr zelenskyi . these two sides discussed the peace formula, preparations for the global peace summit and the risks associated with the russian blocking of the black sea grain corridor. the president of ukraine thanked turkey for its constant and consistent support . of ukraine i will remind you that history will meet the current erdogan and putin will still remain unresolved, not disclosed, at least for the general public, that putin will not go to turkey, it already seems clear, but will erdog

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plane, we will already have problems with the violation of gentlemen's agreements, at one time mark milleythis is uh, the chairman of the committee of the joint staffs of the shab literally two months ago said that 10 f16 planes cost 1 billion dollars and another billion dollars is actually their maintenance and training, if the air force says that 128 prospective aircraft are needed for replacement, and the question arises whether these are not excessive desires of the ukrainian side, based on such a significant cost of even ten machines for ukraine, well in by mistake, he meant new production aircraft, block 70-72. there, indeed, the output of the plant is 70 million, and the machine for slovakia and bulgaria, they come out to be around 130-140 million dollars per unit, so in reality there are even sums a little more than that, but the cost the maintenance of new cars is not as great as we will need when using cars that have already served for a long time. for example, the two cars that were shown to our president in the netherlands at the air base, one of them was produced in 1990, and

did not fail in this, the convinced head of of the joint chiefs of staff of the us army, general mark milley, he noted that the pace of the counteroffensive is indeed slower than planned , but war on paper is often different from war on the battlefield, in addition, ukraine is trying to minimize human losses, at the same time, our fighters managed to overcome the so-called syrovykin line , which the russians spent many months preparing, in particular, it is about mini fields, dragon teeth and anti-tank trenches . milli emphasized the strength of the defense, they still have a lot of combat power and the offensive is not finished. in odesa , they detained an employee of the military medical commission and two accomplices, together with a lawyer, they organized a large-scale fraud scheme for the production of documents for evasion of mandatory military service from a person took $ 10,000. in only one military commissariat, more than 100 men of draft age managed to use their service, well, that is, we understand how much money they managed to earn. the security service of ukraine searched for a

quote, on the couch in front of the president's desk, there's a four-page report, typed up by mark milley himself. it shows the general's own plan to attack iran. but those words ultimately did not appear in the book. according to sources, meadows told investigators he directed it to be taken out, explaining he wasn't there and did not believe it was possible for trump to have the actual document. meadows said he knew it would be problematic if trump had war plan documents in his possession, the sources said. in a statement to abc news, a trump spokesperson accusing the justice department without evidence of selectively leaking incomplete information to impact the 2024 election. >> there is a process that the white house goes through to declassify materials. i don't have any knowledge of any broad-based directive from the president but that doesn't mean it didn't occur. >> reporter: and linsey, former u.s. attorney preet bharara told abc news the information mark meadows has is, quote, pretty damaging but it's unlikely he's flipped on trump. that's because meadows was indicted last week a

. >> well, yeah, it would be ironic if it was mark milley who of course was the subject of the bed menster document waving around that now has worked its way into the mar-a-lago case. truck, does the entrance of classified material into this, potentially slow things down given the fact trump's defense team was looking for any reason to delay, you know, these trials and will presumably make an argument, delay their classified certificationer, the seats of process. an d that slow us down in unfortunate way here? >>un theoretically, but really, alex, it shouldn't, the classified information procedures act, the act you use when you have classified documents that the government wants to use at trial can be a little bit cumbersome, but if you're talking about a small number of classified documents, it really shouldn't act as a break on these proceedings. and by the way, i think glenn is right. my sense is that when senior national intelligence officials come to the white house to brief theth president, they often bri with them memos or power points, sometimes charts or maps or diagrams. those ar

military because the secretary of defense, lloyd austin, and the chairman, the joint chiefs general mark milley, are anti-white racists who have made the demonization of white america a core element of training. our system of justice is also in by this anti-white racism. we have just appointed anti-white racist to the u.s. supreme court who is an ideologue that she can't tell what a woman is. she's been appointed to a position whose only job is to defend the constitution. but she is a believer in critical race theory which maintains that the constitution a document that does contain the word white, is a white supremacist country that should not be respected. i didn't hear one republican on her on the committee that reviewed her mentioning this small fact america, not now and never was a racist country. it is true that in the effort to defend slavery, southerners developed a poisonous, anti-poor ideology that flooded the region. racism. but american slavery itself was not a racist institution. if it were an america as a white supremacist country, how can you explain? the existence of 500,000 bla

military because the secretary of defense, lloyd austin, and the chairman, the joint chiefs general mark milley, are anti-white racists who have made the demonization of white america a core element of training. our system of justice is also in by this anti-white racism. we have just appointed anti-white racist to the u.s. supreme court who is an ideologue that she can't tell what a woman is. she's been appointed to a position whose only job is to defend the constitution. but she is a believer in critical race theory which maintains that the constitution a document that does contain the word white, is a white supremacist country that should not be respected. i didn't hear one republican on her on the committee that reviewed her mentioning this small fact america, not now and never was a racist country. it is true that in the effort to defend slavery, southerners developed a poisonous, anti-poor ideology that flooded the region. racism. but american slavery itself was not a racist institution. if it were an america as a white supremacist country, how can you explain? the existence of 500,000 bla

general mark milley says he gave the families, he was talking about information. he gave the families information. but the father of hunter lopez responded and said this. i will get your response. >> the issue is not the lack of information during those briefings. it is the disregard of intelligence. it's the disregard of planning. that is what you should be apologizing for. >> the total disregard of intelligence. they were warned that there was terrorist activity at abbey gate. >> absolutely. let's start from the beginning. the generals that advise president biden advised against this. the intelligence committee members advised against this. the dissent cables that the congressman was talking about that said do not due this. there was actionable intelligence all the way through where you had marine snipers on the ground saying we have a bomber at the gate. we need to engage. they were not allowed to engage. all the way from the very beginning they had all the information they needed to make this catastrophe. i was there doing evacuations. something bad is going t

there was also a phone call today between the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff mark milley and zaluzhnyssia investigator for bellingcat who has placed on russia's most wanted list for his work, which includes uncovering the men who poisoned the critic alexei navalny. ukrainian intelligence says it has detained a russian informant and foiled a plot to assassinate zelenskyy. is killing zelenskyy still a top priority for putin, from your reporting? >> well, it is. but not at any cost. it was a top priority at any cost in the first days of the war in, the first weeks of the war, they made at least 20, 25 attempts, as was reported both by the sbu, the ukrainian intelligence service, but also by sources on the russian side. but then it became clear that unless it's a successful assassination operation, it will blow back to putin to show another failure. so, russia has had, in my estimate, is one attempt to create a situation where zelenskyy can be assassinated, but they haven't acted on it because they need to be 100%, 200% sure that they will succeed. >> it's pretty frightening, though, if y

biden, secretary of state antony blinken, defense secretary with austin, and join chief of chair mark milley. then she added this. >> incompetent, cowards evil. summer -- some or all of those. i want justice. i want accountability. >> jonathan: sergeant hoover's that had eight similarly points message for president biden about the chaos at the kabul airport. >> do what our son did. be a grown-ass man. admit to your mistakes. >> jonathan: it was an emotional day for these gold star families who certainly seem to feel that this hearing arraigned by congressman darrell iser is in many ways the first time their voices have ever been truly heard. permit and they were powerful. join us in, thank you. next bring in congressman house foreign community -- during ellie and veteran and founder of -- thank you both for coming on. we appreciate it. congressman, to you first. join us in was saying it was a very powerful gathering of these goals are families. mostly because you make this happen, sir, because the republicans control the house. what struck you the most about today? >> what struck me the most

these parents are calling for secretary of state antony blinken and joint chiefs chairman general mark milleyresign. have little hope that will ever happen. >> i have no allusion that anyone will be prosecuted or terminated for ignoring intelligence or making bad decisions. >> now i hear is him and his -- avenge me. >> and tonight the pentagon is responding to all of that damning testimony, writing in part now the department of defense expresses our deepest condolences to the gold star families who lost loved ones during the tragic bombing at abby gate. we are forever grateful for their service, sacrifice, and committed efforts during the evacuation operation. and you'll notice the word "successful" was notably left out of that statement. bret? >> bret: yeah. heard it before. asha has any live on capitol hill. thanks. ♪ ♪ >> bret: former president trump today met a deadline to respond to a justice department proposed order blocking him from sharing details in his january 6th criminal case. tonight we examine the effect multiple indictments and dozens of criminal charges are having on the form

these families want to see secretary of state antony blinken and joint chiefs chairman general mark milleyped down but have little hope that will ever happen in washington. avera ktvu fox two news. good dude. former house speaker nancy pelosi is in san francisco this new time highlight setting a deadline for veterans to apply for benefits. representative pelosi held a roundtable this morning with san francisco veterans at these sorts for plowshares veterans community center. today marks the one year anniversary of the pact act and the deadline to file to get retro active benefits is tomorrow. the act expands va health care and benefits for veterans who may have been exposed to burn pits. agent orange and other toxic substances. toxic substances during military deployment. why today is important to us is not just to celebrate, but to say this there is no deadline to apply for the pact act. benefits were here because tomorrow is an important day to receive retroactive compensation. as you all know, veterans, i must file a claim before for tomorrow to be eligible for pact act benefits backdat

. >> it would be ironic there was mark milley who was the subject of administer document waving around that is not worked its way into the mar-a-lago case. chuck, to the entrance of classified material in this case potentially slow things down given the fact that trump's defense team is looking for any reason to delay these trials and will presumably make an argument to delay the classified certification, to cease a process, could that slow us down in an unfortunate way here? >> theoretically, but really alex it shouldn't. the classification procedures act, the act to use when you have classified documents that the government wants to use at trial can be a little bit cumbersome, but if you're talking about a small number of classified documents, it really shouldn't act as a break in these proceedings. by the way, i think glenn is right. my sense is that when senior national intelligence officials come to the white house to brief the president, they often bring with them, and those are power points, sometimes charts or maps or diagrams. those are often locked as highly classified, in pa

joint chiefs of staff, general mark milley, telling jordanian tv the ukrainian counteroffensive has beenand slower than planned, but insisting ukraine is making steady progress. meanwhile, new details on that private jet belonging to russian mercenary boss yevgeny prigozhin, which disintegrated midair near moscow. u.s. officials saying it's likely there was a bomb on board. new video circulating online showing the wreckage. prigozhin led a rebellion marching with his men on moscow just weeks ago now presumed dead. the kremlin calling allegations it had prigozhin killed absolute lies. and breaking overnight, news of a fresh drone attack on moscow, russian officials saying the drone was shot down. it comes after ukraine sent a huge barrage of explosive drones against russian-occupied crimea. ukrainian and russian officials confirming that attack. gio? >> gio: and i know you'll be following that breaking news. all right, tom, thank you. >>> we're going to turn now to the federal reserve chairman jerome powell's newest assessment on the economy and what the central bank is ready to do to fig

mark milley, for example. this is on the other side. can you have a subjective belief you won when before the election you had already predetermined you had lost, but illegitimately. i agree with you this is a real problem. and this stood out to me and other folks as well. >> and, vaughn hillyard was outlining, catherine, that the former president's defense is going to be in part, i didn't know what all of these 18 people were doing. but, again, in the indictment, there is a reference to an oval office meeting. he was in charge behind the resolute desk in the oval office with these attorneys. and there is an unindicted co-conspirator in that december 18th, 2020 meeting, known to the grand jury, according to the indictment. there were instances where he is clearly front and center throughout this indictment, directing this criminal enterprise according to the indictment. >> exactly. and in other conspiracy indictments, the mob, narcotics traffickers, that usually is the leaders' defense. i don't know what these people are doing, these li

mark milley praised the gold star families and promised transparency, quote: we don't like what happeneds to take care of them. their sacrifices were not in vain. in a statement today, the pentagon said a centcom investigation concluded the bombing sadly could not have been prevented adding leaders took appropriate action in response to reported threat streams at the time. bret? >> bret: okay, jennifer griffin, live at the pentagon. jennifer, thank you. a memorial service has taken place for russian mercenary chief yevgeny prirgs the political rival of vladimir putin was killed in plane crash last week the kremlin has denied involvement. prigozhin challenged putin's authority in a brief armed rebellion in june. putin branded him a trader. up next the panel. new challenge to president biden's border policy as a terror network attempts to enter the human smuggling business. first, beyond our borders tonight. a pakistani appeals court suspends the corruption conviction and three-year prison term of former prime minister emran caen. the 70 years will be able to run for office in elections cu

by the way, general mark milley, the most senior military officer in our military.he 30th of september. that position will be vacant. and if you go down the line, it is not just our service chiefs, it is the complete military where we have officers who are awaiting confirmation. if they are not confirmed, the incumbent in the current seat are being asked to retire. some are saying no, there are vacancies there. then you have acting positions because of vacancies. you have folks who may not be fully qualified serving those particular roles that are now being thrust into roles to serve as heads. -- now >> go ahead a, oh you talk. >> no, no, please. please go ahead. >> and we take a look at families, families are in limbo here. we have spouses who already uprooted families. they move every 1 to 2 years at the general officer. they are seeking employment. they cannot get employment at the next duty station. you have kids associated. they can't get to the next schools. they don't know where they are going. they are in limbo. this is just bad across the board. not only fo

is the plan to bomb iran or to have an attack in iran that was, he said was provided to him by mark milleynd there is audio of him waving that around after his presidency to people twho don't have security clearances. and he's pleading not guilty to obstructing the ability of the justice department to get access to surveillance video or trying to get it because that surveillance video showed others in his operation moving boxes that would have documents. >> and i thought it was interesting today that trump called on the u.s. supreme court to get involved in all of this. >> he did. he actually posted on social media his latest statement after we saw him in court yesterday saying my politicaopponent has hit me with a barrage of weak lawsuits including d.a. and a.j. and others, those entities which require massive amounts of my time and money to adjudication. it does take massive amounts of time and money to adjudicate cases criminal and civil but donald trump is a private citizen at this time. his lawyers are going to make arguments about him being a political candidate, whether that will ha

news, quote, on the couch in front of the president's desk, there's a four-page report typed up by mark milley himself. and here's the recording when the ghost writer is at bedminister himself. let me play that for you. >> these were done by the military given to me. i think we can probably declassify. as president i could have declassified it and now i can't. isn't that interesting? it's so cool. you probably almost didn't believe me but now you believe me. it's incredible. >> bring some cokes in, please. >> i love the cut with the "cokes" in there, too. that's how we know it's trump. do we know if meadows does anything when his ghost writer comes back with this reporter and said this is amazing, the president showed us a classified document? >> first of all, there's no indication he did anything at all. in fact, the interview happens, it is some period of time later. the interview is early on in the process of writing this book, ghost writing it for mark meadows. the draft that i reviewed was what we call a galley. this means it's been through -- it's been written, it's been edited and copy

, quote, on the couch in front of the president's desk, there is a four-page report typed up by mark milleyat it would be problematic if trump possessed such a document. in a statement, the trump campaign accused the justice department of selectively leaking incomplete information that lacks proper context. >> we can give them more proper context. not only did mark meadows say that the president didn't declassify the documents and not only did mike pence say the president didn't properly declassify documents, but trump himself on tape said, i did not declassify these documents. now, if i were president, he says on tape, i could have declassified it, but i didn't declassify it then, so i can't declassify it now and i probably shouldn't even be showing you. >> he says it himself. it is on tape. he said in the georgia case when he asked the secretary of state of georgia to find him 11,780 votes and he went onto say you can say or something, you know, say you did a recount. in every case, he convicts himself. it's hard to argue against what you say and that has been recorded and the charges mat

i'm sure if mark meadows is cooperating witness, if he takes the stand, he would have additional evidence to that. you also have in the indictment general milley's'll pass this on to the next guy. these statements, again, show his state of mind, that he knew he lost, and he was clinging on to stay in office. >> maya, let me ask you about this post. we asked tom nichols about it, but i want to ask you about it as well. if you go after me, i'm coming after you. again, we don't know who he means by you. however, this is what magistrate judge warned trump of literally and he said yes, i understand. finally, sir, this is the judge, the magistrate judge talking. i want to remind you it is a crime to try to influence a juror or to threaten or attempt to bribe a witness or any other person who may have information about your case or to retaliate against anyone for providing information about your case to the prosecution or to otherwise obstruct the administration of justice. do you understand these warnings and consequences, sir? me doing my rachel maddow live reading here. dramatic reading. defendant, yes. could he be in violation of this judge's order