please join me in giving a warm welcome to general mark milley. [applause] thanks for being here. it is great to see you. i'm not used to seeing you out of uniform. so, first of all, congratulations on your retirement. are you relaxed now? gen. milley: probably not, but i'm ok. >> good, good. well, we're honored to have you here and to share your expertise and knowledge about it. what is a dangerous world? and, and i know you've given a lot of thought to it and you keep tabs on everything going on the world. let's go around the world to some of the hot spots that you're keeping an eye on. let's start in the middle east. we've seen what's happened over the last few, almost the past year. we saw this past weekend the israeli strikes in iran. you and i in the pentagon been talking about israeli strikes in iran a few years ago. that was a very big deal. it is a very big deal. what's your sense of where this goes next and just how dangerous it is going forward? gen. milley: first, let me thank you and the team for inviting me and, uh, i recognize that i can't see hardly anybody but i kn

and mark esper and general mark milley, who were the two leaders at the pentagon at the time, talkeds trying to do, she's a new senator from michigan. she's worked at the pentagon. she has a lot of experience in this. was trying to get pete hegseth to talk about what he would do if he, as a defense secretary, was facing a president who is trying to do something that is illegal. would he talk him out of it? would he fight him on that? would he just salute and carry out whatever trump says? >> and you can't really say that this is a hypothetical situation because it happened with the exact same president. >> so he would have 30s would you say he mostly ducked? >> he completely ducked. >> he ducked a lot of he ducked most of the democratic the democratic questioning. he ducked a lot of. but he definitely ducked on on that one the same way he ducked other senators who were trying to pin him on other a whole, whole host of other issues. yeah. >> helene cooper, the last time we had you on, we were talking about ufos and the government's dealing with that issue. now we're focused more on pr

mark esper, the secretary of defense, bill barr, the attorney general, mark milley, the chairman of the, said, mr. president, president trump, do not deploy the 82nd airborne on the streets of the united states against protesters. and they won that argument and he would not commit to that. and he would not praise esper for that. and he would not talk about the bedrock american principle of an apolitical military. and that was startling. and that shows and we don't know what's going to happen, but the need for these nominees to be as loyal as possible to donald trump and not criticize him in any way in public. and so that was very concerning. >> and by the way, you could go down the line. it's not just pete hegseth. if you know that you're there in your position because of the loyalty you have shown to donald trump, that is the foundation, the bedrock. that's your operating principle, isn't it? yes. >> and i and i there was talk about whistleblowersnd people who talked about his issues. and look, i edited and approved the story. nbc news ran of ten current and former fox employees saying