i welcome back to the kaiser report time out to go to london to talk with mark o'byrne of goldcorp dot com mark welcome back to the kaiser report. i mean all right mark o'byrne if central banks and governments were colluding with private banks to rig libel rates does it make sense to you that they were also rigging precious metals prices. well it's quite possible there's been a lot of circumstantial evidence over the years but i think given the facts of life or scandal or is going to more scrutiny on the precious metal side of things it's interesting today chilton of the c f t c who has basically been they've been involved in see if we see a four year investigation into allegations of manipulation of the silver market and he basically made today saying that they hope to release the findings the results of their investigation in september i think that was set probably a year or two years ago it's incredible going to four years and even the fact of the second four years suggest that there may be something going on there so there is definitely a source of motivation why banks and indeed c