alpo care founder and director of the internet monitoring organization net blocks here in doha mark owen jones assistant professor of digital humanities at how mad khalifa university and in bangkok matthew viewer head of the asia program at article 19 an organization which promotes freedom of expression and information welcome to the program alp let me start with you today could we see the government shutdowns of the internet becoming normalized and is this becoming a trend now or are we just better at tracking the shutdowns. so if you ask me we've seen this normalization happen already. across the world we're seeing if new shutdowns become poets with political discourse or even a method to suppressing those who discourse as happens during elections during protests and during political scandals so it is possible possible. hold ticks and this is a huge problem to cite is across the world. is it a situation that is growing well yes it is spreading but also we're becoming wiser to the situation because we are better able to monitor measure and advocate so there is a niche to these incidents and i