well, mark penn isn't a fox news peddler of caricature.iment that is often heard on fox news. and keep in mind that the democratic party's an ideologically varied coalition that ranges from bernie sanders tojoe manchin. and despite the ideological diversity of our coalition, the vast majority of democrats support both the bipartisan infrastructure framework and the build back better act. your own story is pretty remarkable, given where you came from, the disadvantages that you and yourfamily have had to overcome. look, i reflect the sensibilities of the people of the south bronx. the people of the south bronx are practical, not ideological. we care first and foremost about bread—and—butter concerns like health and safety, schools and jobs. you know, when i won my primary injune of 2020, i publicly said that i would not be here were it not for my mother who struggled and sacrificed and suffered so that i could have a better life. she raised you as a single mum in substandard public housing, which, frankly, made you ill because there was so

is mark penn here? should democrats pivot to the center? when you look at the items in these bill, they poll consistently well above 60%, 70%. is getting as high as high as 80s. >> mark penn and that pollster were both consultants for donald trump. they need to do a better job messaging. if you take the label off these policies, they get insanely high report. but once they get labeled as republicans, they start to fall. this isn't a tough thing to do but for some reason democrats are insanely bad at messaging and things haven't gotten much better. >> all right. susan del percio, michael starr hopkins, guys, stay with us. we've got a lot more to get to. still ed, we'll take a look at emily's campaign to be seen beyond her looks. plus swifties are part of taylor swift's presentation. >>> a former u.s. marine told a reporter that day that he and fellow rioters were going to take the federal building. he reached a plea agreement and will serve 60 days in jail. john gruden filed a lawsuit against the nfl, accusing commissioner roger goodell of l

mark penn correct here? should democrats pivot to the center? because when you look at the items in these bills, they poll consistently well above 60%, 70%, some even getting as high as 80% when you talk about family leave and other social programs. >> mark penn and that pollster were both consultants for donald trump. i doubt know if i would take their advice on very much. here's what democrats need to do. they need to do a better job messaging. if you take the label off these policies, they get insanely high support. but once they get labeled as progressive or republicans label them as socialist, the numbers start to fall. and so, democrats need to start using by yog if is. they define americans and tell those stories of how the policies either will benefit them or how their lives are better because of them. this isn't a tough thing to do, but for some reasons, democrats are insanely bad at messaging and things haven't gotten much better. >> all right. susan del percio, michael starr hopkins, guys, stay with us. we've got a lot more to get to.

mark penn, chairman of the pole and chairman and ceo of the stay well group. good to see you. the question is, why has the public turned so quickly against joe biden? >> it's been a pretty dramatic turn since middle of the summer. it obviously really stepped up when he pulled troops out of afghanistan and left americans behind. only 33% approved of his afghanistan policy but on top of that, the economy which was received positively into the summer is perceived negatively now and 60% blame the administration for inflation. also the administration is negative on immigration, the top issues are really the economy now, fire second, immigration third so it's a tough spot for anybody. paul: some republicans say the big issue was culture, identity politics culture war, critical race theory, the schools but how much in your mind, phrygia and probably across the country, what is the culture and how much was the economy in the election? >> i think when you look at virginia and new jersey, you see a similar result even though candidates talk about different issues. that says to me that i

police on a chase and flipping his jeep officers say this happened saturday night when 65 year-old mark penn only was driving erratically in the area of montgomery village in santa rosa. police tried pulling pin only over. but he kept speeding through several communities. police say he eventually ran a red light and then smashed into another driver before flipping his jeep. the driver was not seriously injured. but only did have to be taken to the hospital is now facing a series of felony charges in the east bay tonight. police in concord are investigating after 7 people are injured and a major crash. the collision between 2 cars shutting down traffic in the area early this morning. kron four's camila barco has the story from concord. >> officers say 2 cars crashed at this intersection its willow pass road and port chicago highway in concord as you can see, the roads are open to traffic as of sunday morning. but this video shows you the moments right after the wreck. early sunday morning contra, costa county firefighters were hosing down a flipped car in downtown concord. >> it's one of 2 ca

officers say this happened saturday night when 65 year-old mark penn ollie was driving erratically in the area of montgomery village that's in santa rosa. police tried pulling pin only over. but he just kept on speeding through several communities. police say, but only then ran a red light smashed into another driver before flipping over his jeep. thankfully the driver in the other car was not seriously injured but only did have to be taken to the hospital and he's now facing a series of felony charges along the peninsula chp and firefighters save a person who had a heart attack while hiking in the hills between happened bay and woodside this happening this afternoon. officers tell us they used a helicopter to transfer the patient to the hospital. they say the person who has not been named was experiencing critical injuries and is now being treated in the emergency room. all right. let's take a live look outside right now meteorologist mabrisa rodriguez joining us now with a look at the forecast beautiful night out there overlooking the golden gate bridge doesn't doesn't look very ver

now, the authors of that op-ed, andrew stein, former president of the new york city council and mark pennnd hillary clinton. so, mark, what can president biden, what can joe biden learn from the 1990s? not that he wasn't there, but what can he learn from the clinton administration? >> well, i don't think he'll go back and promise a balanced budget as we did. that ship has sailed. but with today's numbers, you can see that he better give some quick attention here to the bread and butter issues. he can't put in policies that raise gas prices, raise food prices, he's going to have to back off those policies, understand and put them in the context of the situation and move more step by step brunging the public with him. >> i'm curious what you think that means specifically. because some people look back to the clinton administration and the focus turned to things like school uniforms, which people think are trite. but in terms of priorities, what to you think joe biden should focus on now? >> i think joe biden has to realize that joe manchin and sinema are not outliers. the bernie sanders and

mark penn told fox digital the biden administration has been seen as too far to the left.gly bad mid-term election for democrats. good morning. he also writes it took the 94 congressional elections to serve as a wake-up call and president clinton moved from working with the left to working with the center. i don't think we'll see that come out of president biden right now. it may like president clinton take a strong message in the mid-terms for that to happen. the question would be why was last week not enough for a wake-up call now? >> well within the democratic party the results from last week mean very different things to very different people. if you're a progressive in the democratic party you look at last week's results and say this is just because we didn't pass these big spending bills in congress. we haven't gotten things done. our base was not motivated. i think that's a questionable conclusion if you look at who did and didn't vote in a place like virginia or new jersey but nevertheless progressives are saying this is what happens when we fail to deliver on a pr

mark penn and andrew stein who argued very strongly that this president neat to make a sharp turn back994 after the midterm debacle. first of all, do you think this president is going to take that advice? >> mthis before we obsess over t left versus right versus centery that nobody else does. i think we keep it not left versus right or center, but it is from verses back. people feel like they were stuck at the back of the line and they cannot get ahead. just talking about people as a way to go. you're starting to see the white house to do that this week a little. you're starting to see them talk about the immediacy and the urgency for their agenda getting past. if it passes, and 2022 you will see child care costs come down by xml. you will see prescription drug costs for seniors come down by x amount. that is what this president does very well and he needs to get back to doing after a couple of months where washington was talking about a big pile of money. >> chris: julie, i'm not sure that i agree there. it seems to me that whether spending huge amount of money or immigration or crime

you have this mark penn op-ed in "the new york times."rs talking about the language that democrats need to start using that resonates with swing voters. i mean, the alarm bell obviously went off after virginia, after what happened in new jersey. that close race that no one thought would be close. they're rethinking the policies and the language. the language might seem like, why do you care that much about language? i think in this era where everything is about identity and how do i feel opposed to necessarily about ideas and ideology, the language matters profoundly. that's what you see republicans pounding on. it's what you saw youngkin pound on. take little snippets and be able to say, look, this speaks to a party that's out of step with you. that resonates in virginia. i think democrats worry it could resonate in other swing districts. >> safe bet that not all democrats agree on what the definition of a normal democrat is. jim vandehei, thank you for this. we'll see you again in a few minutes on "morning joe." before we go, just want

. >> bill: that is former clincher advisor mark penn last hour. how long does it last?>> i would try to stop us inflation. i lived through the 1970s and i remember when jimmy carter was president and every time he went to the grocery story and that gas station, prices have going up and up and up. inflation got worse and worse. ronald reagan ended up winning a landslide election in 1980 against an incumbent president and inflation was the major concern of voters that year. you're seeing that reemerge now, bill. it is a carbon copy of what happened in the castries 70s where week by week, month by month, these inflation numbers are getting worse. gasoline prices are now $1.30 higher than they were one year ago. when it middle class or lower income person is filling up their tank, that's 20 bucks more. that's a lot of people to pay. the federal reserve board and the biden administration have been asleep at the switch at this one. if i was joe biden, i would say we do not need another $4 trillion spending bill. all of that money creation in all of that money and economy is g

we have economists out there who are saying that it is going to ease inflationary pressures, but mark penn strategist suggests that to this idea of pushing and pushing on the bill back better plan, particularly from the far left with the party is not what democrats want by and large, the people like joe manchin and kyrsten sinema are not outliers, they are in the center of the parties ideology, they said this, while democrats support the bill back better initiative, 60% of democrats and 65% of the country support the efforts of these moderates like joe manchin and kyrsten sinema to rein it in. it's mr. sanders from vermont anacostia cortez from new york that represent areas ideologically far from the mainstream of america. so does the white house need to bring that back in? see what happened on november 2nd and say we are out of step? >> i really commend the article for people to read it, what it is saying is these people were recalibrating clinton when he had the disastrous men term and then moved back to the center and ended up winning reelection in '96 could what they are saying is it's

joining me right now is former senior advisor to the clintons, the stagwell group managing partner, mark pennhis race. it is 371 days until the 2022 midterm elections. what do you think happens in virginia and tell us how you see this impacting future races like the congressional races in '22 and be presidential in '24. >> well, right now if terry mcauliffe does win, that would be the upset. because i think everybody has seen this kind of rise in youngkin and, you know, he's poised for victory. he's got the crowds, he's got the momentum, he's got the poll ofs going in direction. terry seems to have adopted a weak strategy in response. he tried to nationalize the race, make it against trump, bring in biden and vice president harris rather than kind of focus on the local issues whereas youngkin is talking about grocery taxes and education. i mean, it looks like a pretty sure thing for youngkin. us pollsters have been wrong before. maria: so a maris national poll finding 44% of democrats and democrat leaning independents want a candidate other of than joe biden to run in 2024, mark. you saw the

mark in history tv, civil war symposium. >> it is my distinct honor to introduce this mornings for speaker, doctor peter carmichael and the director civil war institute of gettysburg college and received his e.g. from penn state university studying under gallagher and amy are all familiar with and professor peter carmichael taught at western carolina university and the university of north carolina at greensboro west virginia university. his academic interests includes 19th century civil war re- construction, southern history public history, and cultural history. author and editor and his most recent work, but more from the common soldier in 2018, and part of littlefield history of the civil war era. in his previous books included us generation young virginians and peace, war and reunion, and 2005, and william rj - from university of virginia press 1995 and in addition to his books is also published a number of articles, popular journals and speaks frequently to scholarly audiences pretty and in addition every june, professor peter carmichael teaches the conference which brings hundreds of attendees from across the country no good to special plug-in, i've attended and 2019 and the wonderful so peter carm

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