also, congressman mark pocan. great to have both of you with us tonight.first, lena, how can walker claim progress on job creation when data proves absolutely the opposite? >> well, ed, the facts have never mattered to them about telling the truth ordealing with the actual factual situation we're in in the state of wisconsin. whether that is true or false. he believes he can lull the voters, i guess, lull taxpayers. >>> believing whatever he says he says is true it the facts show everything to be different. when you look at the unemployment numbers in my city, among african-americans in plash particular. why is that not the special item we're doing? >> what are the things they are doing? what is wisconsin doing? if you were to compare wisconsin's record with what mark dayton and the democrats are doing in minnesota, it's only a -- i mean, it's two totally different worlds. the economy is booming in minnesota whereas wisconsin is struggling. what do you make of that? >> you're exactly right. it's because we're spending our time on all these, you know, extre