i'm joined now by mark potok, a former senior fellow at the southern poverty law center. carol anderson, she's chair of african american studies at emory university and author of "white rage: the unspoken truth of our racial divide." and leonard pitts, jr., he's a pulitzer-prize winning columnist with the miami herald. carol, i want to start with you. i wanted to start on the events of friday night, but the comments of the president today put that in a different dimension. the images that you saw on friday night of people walking with torches on the uva campus versus the one the president saw seem to be a different picture. what came to your mind? >> what came to my mind when i saw the torches and the marching was it reminded me so much of like klan marches in the '20s. it reminded me of the marchs that happened in montgomery as the klan was trying to force african americans to get back on those jim crow buses, to get back in their place. it was a signal of white power and of trying to create black fear. as i thought about it, it was a well... a way of seeing how this tox

as a little less nazi or clansmen and a little bit more sophisticated thinkers about race segun mark potok estos nuevos grupos tratan de presentarse como personas que tienen opiniones mas sofisticadas sobre la raza... y no tanto como nazis o miembros del ku klux klan... ese sentimiento fue expresado por un miembro del grupo que se hizo responsable por las pancartas dejadas en la universidad... a quien logramos entrevistar por teléfono... el hombre quien pidio no ser identificado por temor a represalias nos dijo que su grupo se identifica como "nacionalistas blancos" take sot gfx whites have been denied their right to exist as a race and as a culture by uncontrolled immigration,.y que no se creen superior a otras razas pero si creen que "a los blancos se les ha negado su derecho a existir como una cultura y raza en su propio país por la inmigración descontrolada." take sot potok in the age of donald trump, they certainly feel that they can make inroads into the political mainstream and that they may not be wrong. el vocero del centro legal de la pobreza dice que en la era de donald trump es

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