i don't know if you know mark potok, he used to work... mark potok — i know mark potok very well. d worker in antiracism... and so am i. ..at the southern law poverty center. he was, he's no longer there. yeah, he's no longer there, he's at the centre of analysis of the radical right. he studies groups, ones that you reach out to and he says this, "when daryl davis's many relationships with clan leaders are examined, it is hard not to wonder if he isn't fundamentally aiding and abetting the cause that he claims to oppose." mm—hm, yeah, well, as i told you, mark potok does not like me. i know him, i've met him. in fact, he appeared in my documentary with me. i respect the work that he's doing. however, he did make a statement and i would send you to go watch the documentary. it's called accidental courtesy, and i invited him to be in the documentary with me, and he did so, he obliged, and he stated his views. he said that what i'm doing... he's not out to sit down and have coffee with the klan. he said he is out to destroy the klan. now, to me, that is wrong. i'm not out to destroy