>> mark renne and i want to put a historical perspective on this whole thing and a reality check, and on the one hand, south of harrison street you can do the entertainment but i have tried to put the (inaudible) which just won the rolling stone for the best entertainment venue in the building next to the post office on harrison, i think that is townson street could not be done because there is an oncalve there, and it basically takes out about a half to two-thirds of that, you can't do entertainment and so that was, that is sort of a red hering and so the reality is, and i am going back to the 89 plan which i worked on and this plan. and this happened on 11th street some time in the 90s i believe and these people were very tired and what happened on the folsom and 11th and they were very militant and they basically were championed by ex-commissioner mico and it took a very, and from day one it took a very entertainment, and a slant, and i know ex-commissioner allen was on that and it is the quote entertainment expert and he basically had to get off and he was forced off and then you