about how he cost mark sanford his seat in congress. i am potus, hear me roar. last night was the general election in south carolina, just like it was everywhere. and last night, presidentially endorsed katie arrington lost that seat to a democrat named joe cunningham. did i mention that was south carolina? just won by a democrat. a few weeks after president trump applied his unparalleled presidential political genius to the katie arrington/mark sanford race, which cost the republicans a seat in the house, the president also confidently waded into the kansas governor's race. when republican voters in kansas were deciding this year who was going to be their candidate for governor, they had a choice between a sort of normal conservative republican or a much, much, much trumpier choice named kris kobach. immensely controversial, very high profile, kansas secretary of state. sort of a special white house adviser on nonexistent voter fraud. in that kansas primary to decide who the republican party's candidate would be for governor in kansas,

it's a district that mark sanford won by 22 points in 2016.a district that is, obviously, been gerrymandered, but through that gerrymandering, we had a strong message that cut to the core of it. and that was defeating this political tribalism that's, you know, that's ripping us apart at our moral fabric across this country. and that's what we spoke to throughout this district. and it's what resonated here. and that's why we're able to get support from republican mayors like tim goodwin or jimmy carroll or republican counsel members like jim owens. a lot of folks, you know, heard our message and it resonated with them and we're able to break across party lines and win this seat. >> let me ask you. i'm glad you brought that up, political tribalism. what katie arrington had to explain her loss was interesting and speaks to that topic. i'm going to show it to you and then we'll talk about it. >> the first congressional district last night lost the conservative agenda. we lost because mark sanford could not understand that this was about the conser

that was mark sanford's district. alan, you've been standing by patiently.our big picture thoughts on the night. >> i want to tell you the hidden meaning of these midterm elections for 2020. as you know, i have a system called the keys to the white house that have correctly forecast the results of every presidential election since before you were born in 184. and as a result of this midterm, the incumbent republican who's hold the white house lost a key. the mandate key which is measured by midterm house elections. that's another keel down. and therein midterm also put a second keep in jeopardy, the scandal key because everybody is talking about the house democrats now having investigatory and subpoena power. if they and the special counsel uncover really damaging information about donald trump, another key drops. while donald trump has called in a tremendous victory, in fact, it has significant little undermined his chances to win in 20208. >> first of all, thank you for shaving ten years off my age. i appreciate that. don't you believe there's the argument

old seat. >> mark sanford's old seat which is plus 19 trump, that's gone so those people i think reacted negatively and properly so in my estimation, with this pivot in the last three weeks. i think he might have even hurt scott walker in wisconsin there because people just looked at that and say, hey, you know whatever enthusiasm we had in the wake of the kavanaugh hearing, which really rallied republican support, i think it started to wane with the way that trump tried to close this argument. >> john, historically divided government, after two years of an nradministration, historical what should we expectthan. will the president ever understand that the presidents we tend to wish to emulate and the ones we commemorate are the ones who simply don't govern for their base. they do reach out. they do surprises. nixon goes to china. harry truman from missouri who had a great aunt who wouldn't come to the white house because there was a lincoln bedroom in it integrates the military. lyndon johnson from a segregated state finishes the work of jim crow. those are the presidents we remember. ro

because i woke up to an op-ed from mark sanford. eric kanter, the former number two among the republicans in the house, and also we talked to tom ridge, part of this new group of republican lawyers called checks and balances trying to restrain the president of the united states. it seems like a lot of republicans, albeit more establishment republicans, are waking up this morning saying, mr. president, you better listen to these midterm elections. you better pay attention to what happened, and you better change. but i'm not sure he's going to listen. >> well, look, we have an interesting pattern in modern american history. that pattern is president almost always do horrible in their first midterm and they almost always end up getting re-elected. i don't want to confuse correlation with causation, but i think it's safe to suspect that what happens is that they are chasent. look at bill clinton ending up winning easily in '96 after the big republican revolution. the problem is i can't imagine donald trump being the introspective kind o

mark sanford has a pretty interesting op-ed in the "new york times" today.an to try and reclaim is civility. we just saw civility with martha mcsally. we saw civility with mr. crenshaw on "saturday night live." people have a yearning for civility in politics that has been missing for two years or more. i think it was in evidence in everything we've seen and talked about this morning out of arizona. >> gene robinson, martha mcsally's message last night, the republican who lost the race and conceded was all the more important considering you have the president of the united states calling that election corrupt in a tweet. saying should we vote again? here comes the person who's directly affected by this, saying, no, don't listen to all that. kirstyrsten sinema won fair and square. i'm stepping aside, let's move forward, basically blocking out the president's argument. >> who was the mature adult in that transaction? obviously the president was speaking vile nonsense. there's no indication of any sort of corruption in arizona. mcsally could not have been classi

katie arrington beat mark sanford. arrington in her victory speech spoke about how this is trump's party now. she was a trump supporter. right now she is on the verge of defeat based on what we're looking at right now. why that's important for a couple of different reasons, but the primary, this is a seat democrats did not expect to have. ever every one you have, especially california still coming in. there is a number of pickups. this is a plus one democrats didn't expect to have. that's one more seat whoever the speaker is going to be that nancy pelosi is going to have. that's a big deal. >> so we have this as a projected win for the democrats. we'll talk about the dynamic later on as we start to go there. georgia 6 is something worth looking at right now. >> it's also worth remembering if you're talk about georgia, everybody remembers georgia 6. there are tens of millions of dollars spent in this race. democrats had a lot of high hopes and short. here is another one that came on late. karen handel was the incumbent.

and i think you saw it with mark sanford's race, a guy who is very much of the ilk i just laid out, he was defeated by someone who claimed total allegiance to the president. so we are going through a period of time where the politics of the republican side is very personality based. and again, is this transitional or when this personality is no longer president, will the party migrate back to its standard foundations? we will see. steve: i would like to ask you about some of our allies, france, germany, great britain and canada. what is the state of relations between our allies and with nato in particular? senator corker: they are very perplexed. and the relationship is poor. by the way, with heavy heart on their side, meaning -- i just had the foreign minister in from canada, and, i mean, it is not good, but it is with a heavy heart from their standpoint, because have had such a relationship with our nation for so long. france being our earliest ally but the other nations being with us so much. it is as if right now what is happening is a purposeful destruction of relationships just b

he won a district held by mark sanford, and it was donald trump jr.'s last campaign stop. he won it at 2:00 or 3:00 in the morning. democrats have a lot to be proud of. i think the leadership needs to be intra specktion because they don't reflect what was victorious for democrats last night. >> i want to talk more about that a little bit, but first i want to give your friend to the left, there, ironically, that this was just a big clear victory for the democrats. >> structurally speaking, nothing that happened last night tells me anything other than donald trump remains in good shape in middle america. the coasts are still unhappy with him. on the senate side, kavanaugh clearly locked in the senate. >> how do you know that? you mean the senate was going to go down before kavanaugh? >> the only race we don't know as kavanaugh, and tester voted against c c kavanaugh -- >> heller supported him. >> oh, man, he ruined it. >> kavanaugh, would you like to say that democrats had a good night in the senate, bakari? >> no, not at all. >> the same about o'connell going all in on the

i think mark sanford proved that. so he attacked him before he lost, he attacked him after he lost. and he offended so many house members, and guess who else he offended? republican voters. so now, instead of having mark sanford's republican vote, and he voted with trump 90% of the time, i'm sure, 95% of the time, got a democrat there for the first time in 40 years. >> what all those rallies were about and what the president achieved on tuesday night were to make his support deeper but not wider. so all the people who were at the rallies cheering and chanting "lock her up," they felt better about their candidates, they felt better about president trump. they lost people in the virginia suburbs, for example, the suburban woman, suburban voters, who he's going to need desperately. those votes that got counted in wisconsin, that's the difference between being president and not being president and he lost a bunch of those people on tuesday. >> what about going off mia love? that's so insane. >> and carlson rubella, that w

katie arrington won the primary against mark stanford saying that mark sanford as a trump critic shouldn't represent the district because it's all about trump. as a centrist, his slogan was country over party and he finds himself winning a totally safe republican seat. i'm sorry to say that james mattis is my loser of this week, operation faithful patriot, they name came down, the scary caravan after the election is scary. >> mike pence finally got the nod to be vice president on trump ticket for 2020. loser of the week is chuck schumer because you think house -- wait until his >> winner of the week, nancy pelosi winning 35 seats at least in the house and it doesn't look like she'll have a serious challenge for speakership. loser of the week, the progressive stars, the stacy abrams or less the beto o'rourke or less, a lot of money, all the losers are likely losers in the races. >> bret: notable quotables. alexa, play weekend mix. the new lincoln mkc. connecting the world inside, with the world outside. so you can move through both a little easier. introducing the well-connected 2019 lincol

i guess is not arizona, mark sanford ready in the new york times today, the former governor of southa they did not go republican. there are some shifts going on out here. where is president trump's new ohio? his calculus and the calculus he made the midterm elections is that essentially he believes that if folks did not embrace his candidacy during the midterms, that they lost. but for the district you just mentioned, katie erickson blasted mark sanford and she is a republican the rate of that district and she lost it is conservative district in south carolina to joe cunningham, who was a young rising star democrat , a 36-year-old democrat. we are shifting demographics thatthat republicans are also looking at other certain portions of the state, particularly on the issue of trade and they think the issue of trade perhaps might help them more than immigration. we onne: where where trade in traffic? isare learning the treasury putting a report out or gathering evidence to possibly impose tariffs on cars. i think if you think that, francine, several months ago where we have these glimps

we lost the seat in south carolina, katie arrington stood with the president much more so than mark sanford. regrettably, she did not win. i think he had tremendous success in the senate seat that he involved himself with, the house, it's a different entity. it's tough to win in off years. the historical headwinds, the money that poured in, the retirements, i think kevin and paul knew that we were in trouble even though they fought like the dickens to prevent it. i think it was inevitable. i didn't see us picking up seats in the senate, that was a plus. >> bret: we appreciate your time as always. here's how the balance of power stands right now. as of tonight with some races still pending out there, republicans have picked up three seats in the senate. 52-46 lead at this time. a couple races out still. democrats take the house so far picking up 27 seats, that's 222 to 196 advantage at this time. it appears nancy pelosi will regain the speakership she held from 2007 to 2011, she is speaking softly right now. other top democrats carrying a bigger stick. >> we will strive for bipartisanship, w

republican candidates in the house who also aligned themselves, katie arrington of south carolina, mark sanfordo anti-trump, she was very pro trump. she loses that race. so the president's problems are beyond some candidates distancidistanc distancing themselves from him. he went to those very red states to campaign for the senate candidates not the suburban districts. >> now what is the question? we'll have weeks and months to figure that out. if you watch that news conference there was a lot of fire and fury, rage from trump. and there were snippets about high aye might adjust my tax cuts. maybe we could talk about daca. there was a little bit of both and then this question, can you get along with nancy pelosi if, as nancy pelosi says, yes, we're going to investigate this president. >> we have a constitutional responsibility to have oversi t oversight. that's the balance of power. you can be sure of one thing. when we go down any of these paths, we'll know what we're doing and we'll do it right. >> can you compartmentalize that and still continue to work with him for the benefit of the rest o

gop primary for a south carolina congressional seat to campaign against the sitting republican, mark sanfordtrump critic. sanford famously had an affair while he was governor. and when he disappeared, his initial excuse was that he was hiking the appalachian trail. trump repeatedly mocked sanford for that but got the name wrong. >> never liked him too much. i wasn't a big fan. the tallahassee trail, must be a beautiful place. unfortunately, he didn't go there. >> seth: no, he didn't. because there's no such thing. [ laughter ] "tallahassee trail" sounds like something you'd see on the price list at a florida waxing salon. [ cheers and applause ] so trump helped push sanford out in favor of katie arrington, a republican who ran as a staunch trump ally. now remember, this is a seat that has been held by republicans since the '80s. let's see how trump's hand-picked republican candidate did. >> the democratic candidate, joe cunningham, defeated republican katie arrington. it was a surprising upset in a district that favored president trump by double digits in 2016. and it's a seat held by a repu

maybe, maybe mark sanford district.re. >> remember the south carolina primary in 2016. trump did take every congress am district. his weakest, though, by far was south carolina one. >> why? coast. charleston. >> higher income. >> higher income. >> more college degrees. i guess fork '22. >> i was going to say. >> can we show you? this shows you. 55-39, that was the trump margin there. that's probably the -- >> trumpiest business. >> even that one she had earlier issues in the district. that's probably the biggest surprise from that group to me. >> so i think it's one of these things people realize this democrat make majority is not going to be hard to reelect unless there is a collapse on the top of the democratic ticket in 2020. >> the big question that's emerging to me as a new democratic strength in the ush interests here. as long as trump, himself, is there reenforcing. the question to me is the ground that republicans gave back in these rural blue collar areas. in the north, the mid-west, is that ground he can win b

he's telling mark sanford to back off -- mark warner. things like that are exactly why americans across the country, voters say, there's no good guys in politics. >> actually, it's worse than that. this is an important point for our viewers here, stephanie. >> please. >> the u.s. has no general privacy law whatsoever. it does not exist here. there are laws about -- >> but we also don't have any will for it! look what our political leaders are doing, saying, back off, my daughter works there. >> this is why. this is why the u.s. is the world capital of commercial -- >> yeah, he didn't say back off, my daughter works there. he said, back off. separately, his daughter works there. >> and so there's no basic protection for anybody, except what the companies choose to give us. so our model in this country is facebook says, hey, here are our rules -- or google or twitter. here are our rules, this is your privacy, take it or leave it. that's what we have in this country. not what they have in europe. now we have a chorus of people saying, you k

mark sanford is our representative right now. he was a vocal critic of trump. kenny arrington beat him in the primary. joe cunningham is a nice guy. the beach town mayors are supporting him because of his stance against offshore drilling. i talked to other people and they say i like joe, but if i vote for a democrat, it will be support of the most polarizing figure and that is nancy pelosi. it will create a problem for democrats. i would like to get your take on joe and katie and the first congressional district. a lot of times down here it is just taken for granted that everything is going red. i am not so sure this time. guest: joe, it is a lower tier opportunity for democrats. they are talking about putting money in. katie errington not only defeated a congressman in the primary but had a car accident and was off the campaign trail for a while. she is back now. if they count the votes quickly early in the night and cunningham wins, he will be a big night for democrats. i think she is probably ahead in the mid-single digits but cunningham is within striking d

but also helped by the president's beef with republicans, like mark sanford, who was openly critical of trump behavior. mr. trump endorsed sanford's primary opponent, and now that reliably red seat is held, you guessed it, by a democrat. democrats flipped seven governors' mansions too including kansas, where the president helped oust the incumbent republican during the primary, choosing loyalist and voter fraud firebrand chris coback instead. now you guessed it again, a democrat is governor. but the president is clearly not reading the midterm results as a mandate to tone it down because he's trumping it up. today he mocked and belittled one of our closest allies, saying emanuel macron suggests building its own army to protect europe against u.s., china and russia. but it was germany in world wars i and two. how did that work out for france? they were starting to learn german in paris before the u.s. came along. pay for nato or not. it's been one week since the election and the president lashed out at an ally. he's trying to undermine the election in florida, he fired his toirattorne

president intervene in that south carolina 1 house race where he supported ka katy errington over mark sanfordlso saw him endorse chris kobach, and republicans ended up losing that as well. those are some notable losses as the president tries to remake the republican party in his own image. >> not to mention dave brat in virginia, the seventh district, losing to abby spanberger. that was a big one as well, since dave brat took it from eric cantor only a few years ago. steve kornacki and mark murray, thank you so much. >>> and next from the ballot box to court battles, lawsuits piling up in some of the country's most closely watched elections. we're going live to florida and georgia coming up next. orgia cot insurance that won't replace the full value of your new car? you'd be better off throwing your money right into the harbor. i'm gonna regret that. with liberty mutual new car replacement, we'll replace the full value of your car. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ i've always been amazed and still going for my best, even though i live with a higher risk of stroke due to afib not caused

but they are still intimided by him because they're scared stiff they will do to them wha he did mark sanfordtch mcconnell is pleasing donald trump to this day because he's afraid of 20 in kentucky. >> woodruff: david, do you see the republicans in congress more willing to stand up to the president? i think marginaly, as mark described. in the foreign perolicy ma they have been more able to stand up to him. the republican party hasn't been particularly fond of the russians or saudi arabia. when trumphouse a foreign policy doctri built on authoritarian business partners, vladimir putin and the saudis, and that's ican partythe repu ever has been or probably will be after donald trump. ualthere's an act intellectual difference on these matters and they're more willing to to be much tougher on the saudis and that's been in the last two years. >> we saw thc.i.a. director banned from testifying. >> woodruff: a hush-up. over khashoggi, over the saudi prince's involvement if not ordering f the murder of khashoggi, at which the c.i.a. e, butncluded is the cas donald trump says, no, those are just feel

mark sanford, remember, unseated in republican primary, ousted by katie arrington. not a lot of vote left. arrington has fallen behind by close to 4,000 votes there. >> wow, there are surprises in these house races. everyone had been combing every house race to see where these were these pickups. i had my eye on that underwood race, first-time candidate, incredibly charismatic, very good at getting press, articulating her own message down to earth. she worked her butt off. i was watching her race. i still didn't expect her to win that. >> what's important that, races like that, the ones where they're not trying to get all the attention. they're working under the radar. doing their business. going door to door. like they're running for city council. those races sneak up on you oftentimes. that's one of the advantages we had going into 2010 with state legislative races, for example, where you get those pickups where no one is paying attention. you got the candidate who fits the district, saying the right thing. we saw it in virginia earlier this year with the special

a democrat is apparently about to win the first district of south carolina along the coast, mark sanford'st. solid republican district. looks like a democrat -- >> and that south dakota governor's race. >> and, you know, there was time years ago when we were surprised to see republicans competing in a place like michigan, for example. a republican presidential candidate wins michigan. you know, a union state. that seemed weird and it seemed like the party was ascended in places where we didn't expect. you know, beto o'rourke diplomat get over the hump. stacey abrams may get to a run-off, may not. but i think those races are going to look really different in retrospect and they're going to look like the start of something rather than the end of something. >> what do you think we witnessed tonight? >> you know, i think that we saw sort of the first step toward really taking on trumpism. i think trump wasn't on the ballot, but he made trumpism the centerpiece of this election. and i think we also saw the democrats not blinking. they settled on health care and articulating a message about some

district 1, for example, where i'm from, the closing message for katie arrington in a seat that mark sanford owned that donald trump won was ms-13. right? and so that turned away these groups of people that you're talking about. when joe cunningham, the opponent, who's now a member of the united states congress, was talking about those pocketbook issues, was talking about issues that go right to the bailiwick of those white suburban women that the democrats have to have. >> also health care was also something democrats focussed on a lot. >> i think we have to take a second to realize where -- why we are here now. the reason we're still looking at races is because democrats are extremely competitive in red and purple states. donald trump won florida and we're still waiting results because it's so darn close. we're awaiting results in georgia. arizona was just called today. and i am -- i think republicans should really get obsessed about what happened in arizona. i thought martha mcsally was a great candidate that had the wrong strategy. kyrsten sinema was a code pink, anti-war, person that tr

for example, right near where i'm from, the closing message for katie arrington in a seat that mark sanford owned that donald trump won was ms-13. right? and so that turned away these groups of people that you're talking about when jo cunningham, the opponent, who's now a member of the united states congress, was talking about those pocketbook issues, was talking about issues that go right to the bailiwick of those white suburban women that -- >> also health care was also something democrats focused on a lot. >> i think we have to take a second to realize why we are here now. the reason we're still looking at races is because democrats are very competitive in red and purple states. donald trump won florida and we're still awaiting results. arizona was just called today. and i think republicans should really get obsessed about what happened in arizona. i thought martha mcsally was a great candidate that had the wrong strategy. kyrsten sinema was a code pink anti-war person that traditionally in a republican campaign you would have been able to sideline her re quickly. but martha mcsally for

. >> but you know that's not a sure bit if you look at south carolina, here was mark sanford who haden on the president as a republican, lost in the primary to a woman who completely embraced trump and his policies, and then she was defeated in a district that hasn't seen a democrat in 40 years michelle, is the president likely to change at all to accommodate sort of a changing tide, a hit-or-miss sort of scenario >> i don't think president trump is ever going to change, contessa he's going to be the same person -- >> endorsed 100%. >> he's going come out fighting. he's going to come out fighting. he's going to frame this as a victory in every way, shape possible i think the question you're getting to is what is the message of the election when you see who won and who lost how much support does president trump have it depends on what part of the country you're in. we saw a really big rural/urban divide, very dramatic. you see a division when it comes to ages. the age of people voting, the race of people voting. but none of that is going to change the president as all. >> steve liesma

. >> congressman mark sanford on "morning joe" earlier this year with his advice on republicans to winin south carolina's first district, democrat joe cunningham defeated republican state represent katie arrington for sanford's seat. arrington ran on a heavy pro trump seat. >> again, in south carolina, in red, hot south carolina. >> sanford lost the gop primary after president trump aligned himself with arrington. joining us now, historian, author of "the soul of america," and john meachum. >> anchor down. >> he's an msnbc contributor. >> i had no idea until i was speak to go some people in the mris publishing business, did you know that the soul of america has sold more copies than every britney spears downloads? >> wow. >> okay. >> i don' >> do you know who common is? >> i don't. >> i'll tell you later. >> and also with us, alesse jordan and house editor for the cook political report, david wasserman. we've been following your analysis all week long. what's the bottom line this morning? >> look, i wasn't expecting some of the upsets we had. i think it was night of contradictions. dem

and south carolina 1, mark sanford taken out by a conservative challenger. of course, she was running in the district that is the most affluent in the state and moved toward hillary clinton. in these areas coming you saw unique circumstances. the takeaway i have gotten, and the peace i talked about -- pi ece i talked about with rhinos and tigers -- these are the blue-collar democrats. and they deserve a nickname. they are moving the electorate and people should start looking at them. the tigers came out and they saved a lot of house incumbents. the district had been only suburban columbus, he would've been wiped out, but it included tiger country and liquor county and he won by 4.5 points. in french hill, little rock would have elected a democrat, and so forth. they elected the senate republicans who unseated the incumbents. and going forward into 2020, it is going to be adjusting because the republican leadership will naturally want to go recover their ancestral homelands with rhinos, but they win because of tigers. and the democrats will want to consolidat

south carolina won, where mark sanford was taken up by a conservative challenger. the districtng in that is the most affluent the state. use our unique circumstances. the take away i got and the peace i talked about rhinos and their counterpart, tigers. taught -- those are trump is great republicans. nickname.ve a they are moving the electorate and people should start looking at them. congress came out and saved a lot of house incumbents. district only been suburban columbus, they would've been what got, but it included tigers country. it saved french hill. electedock would have the democrat. but they have the tigers country in the rural area. the republican leadership will naturally want to recover their ancestral homelands with rhinos. but they win because of tigers. getdemocrats will want to beach country, but they can't -- if trump can improve only slightly, some of the republican losing challenges in michigan and wisconsin and pennsylvania, we could see a second election in a row where trump loses the popular vote, wins the electoral college, and does so by ba

south carolina won, where mark sanford was taken up by a conservative challenger. the districtng in that is the most affluent the state. use our unique circumstances. the take away i got and the peace i talked about rhinos and their counterpart, tigers. taught -- those are trump is great republicans. nickname.ve a they are moving the electorate and people should start looking at them. congress came out and saved a lot of house incumbents. district only been suburban columbus, they would've been what got, but it included tigers country. it saved french hill. electedock would have the democrat. but they have the tigers country in the rural area. the republican leadership will naturally want to recover their ancestral homelands with rhinos. but they win because of tigers. getdemocrats will want to beach country, but they can't -- if trump can improve only slightly, some of the republican losing challenges in michigan and wisconsin and pennsylvania, we could see a second election in a row where trump loses the popular vote, wins the electoral college, and does so by ba

mark sanford is our representative right now. he was a vocal critic of trump.enny arrington beat him in the primary. joe cunningham is a nice guy. the beach town mayors are supporting him because of his stance against offshore drilling. i talked to other people and they say i like joe, but if i vote for a democrat, it will be support of the most polarizing figure and that is nancy pelosi. it will create a problem for democrats. i would like to get your take on joe and katie and the first congressional district. it isof times down here just taken for granted that everything is going red. i am not so sure this time. , it is a lower tier opportunity for democrats. they are talking about putting money in. katie errington not only defeated a congressman in the primary but had a car accident and was off the campaign trail for a while. she is back now. if they count the votes quickly early in the night and cunningham wins, he will be a big night for democrats. i think she is probably ahead in the mid-single digits but cunningham is within striking districts. race and

she should have divorced him and been long gone like the woman married to mark sanford.s soon as she found out of that home, she was gone and took her kids with her. i have no respect for hillary and for the woman who called from ohio, she did not sound under 30, number one and number two, it is so old-fashioned to blame the woman. it was a total in balance of power and the man has the responsibility to say no. there may have been a young woman interested, but he had a track record of being a philanthropist and womanizer or whatever you want to call it. he had many accusers and i believe all of them. i believe donald trump's accusers as well. host: stan in maryland, go ahead. caller: yes, sir. a 20nk bill -- i have tweet -- 22-year-old son. i have nieces getting ready to turn 12. i am 55. you see them grow up so quickly. this guy is president of the united states. president of the united states and this girl was 21 years old, 21, 22. she is still a kid. how can people not see this? this was heinous. this was a heinous crime. this was rape. i don't know what else you woul

republican senators to be angry at trump and for house members to be angry at trump and you also have mark sanfordnald trump way to go you knocked sanford out and now a democrat owns his seat for the first time since 1991. what republicans will be dumb enough to follow him for the next two years? >> the republican party has a problem insofar they know donald trump is the most popular person in their party. they have their own careers to look after. they have to show deference to the most popular person in their party because they will get ousted. but it deteriorates when donald trump is less of a political force. his pettiness has the potential to bring him down. there was a post mortem on this election cycle in which the governor of iowa offended him somehow so he, the president shunned her and did his best to undermine her. now she survived. mia love yet survive though she got a lot of heat yesterday from this president. this will be an awkward situation and these lawmakers now have less -- are less inclined to be differential to the president. so they have to go their own way a little bit and t

the other side of the coin because you look at cunningham , who won the seat formerly held by sanford. mark basically everyone around him said he is a closet republican. and i make the point that a lot of these people were elected on the democratic ticket. yes, some were socialist but many were elected because they did not like what the pennsylvania folks did when they ran casey, a pro-life guy againstsantorum . i think a lot of these elections were very close. they cannot go too far to the left -- >> foster, a question for you. do you think joe manchin iii of west virginia now switches parties? >> well, i have, and close to one of his dearest friends and we been working on for a while. but no luck yet. i think he will vote in many on the right ways. >> you are right on healthcare. there are medicaid referendums in several states. including idaho. expanding it and all of the referendums past. >> foster, let me interject here. liz cheney from your great state, has become a candidate for the conference chair for the gop. put out quite a long statement today talking and not about the messaging