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. >>> joining us the former governor of south carolina mark sanford. got to see you, governor.ukee, the aforementioned milwaukee, wisconsin, who are you watching most closely this evening? >> yeah. i look forward to it. i'm watching everyone closely. i just landed and wish i could be over there with you. didn't quite make it, but i'm here. i'm at least in town. >> that's all that matters. what do you think -- there's a big debate of how much do you take on donald trump on the stage in his absence and how much do you turn the focus to anything other than trump though he's obviously front and center in this debate because he is the front-runner far and away. what do you think is the best strategy? >> you better go after him. the nature of a campaign is saying what you believe, but also saying why you're better than the other guy in addressing issues that are important to people's lives and what i haven't heard in almost, you know, with the exception of chris christie and maybe asa hutchinson is a lot of, okay, here's what i believe and here's why trump won't get you there. i thin

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