i was friendly with mark and ginny sanford. i first met them more than 20 years ago when i was covering myself carolina primary my now wife and i watched the super bowl at the governor's mansion in 2000 for mark going awol, reading poetry in the bible while on a week long solo hike that frankly seemed totally believable. so when folks begins speculating about cd possibilities, i wrongly wrote it off as the worst kind of sensationalist journalists and when it was proven true, i felt don i felt duped for naive lee believing that i ever knew mark sanford, the person when i really only knew mark sanford the politician. >> and i wasn't the only >> one right there with me caught between image and reality. was sanford's closest aide, his former chief of staff, scott english thank you so much for sitting down with us. you worked for mark sanford from 96 to 2015, is that yes. i have my impression upon which was that he was a nice, affable guy. he issued a proclamation for our wedding, which i do not have hanging up in my house anymore. b

and mark sanford. but more importantly, the mob, janney sanford on the great future first lady of the state of south carolina >> junius amber was invaluable to mark sanford's rise. she was a smart, skillful woman, a georgetown educated wall street vice president. i don't think that mark sanford would have had a political career at all if it were not for ginni sanford's help, it's not my love. i'm not driven to run campaigns, but but we worked well together jenny sanford had been a right-hand woman throughout all of mark sanford's political career >> she >> managed his congressional campaigns and she also managed his first campaign as governor, something that she has said since she really tried to get out of doing because she had four our son's, all of whom were still have school age. but she was free labor and it was somebody that he really wouldn't have to hire on on behalf of the people so the state i wish you godspeed >> sure. mark and jenny made a great team, but it turned out there were some eleme

jake also looks at the extramarital affair confession from former south carolina governor mark sanford after his office claims he was hiking the appalachian trail. again, united states of scandal starts at 09:00 p.m. sunday night here on cnn the news continues. the source with kaitlan collins starts. now, have a good weekend and good evening. >> i'm kaitlan collins, and this is the source and it is also a judgment day for donald trump and his wallet. judge, arthur engoron leveling trump and his businesses with a mind-blowing order to pay up to the tune of $355 million plus interest for being fraudsters and don't sleep on the interest here because the new york attorney general, letitia james, says that it could bring the total payment closer to $450 million the judge found that the trumps engaged in a years-long scheme to trick banks and to thinking that they're assets were worth far more than they actually work for eric and donald trump jr. were both order to pay $4 million apiece. so when you look at it tonight, $300,400 million, obviously a big deal even for a billionaire. but he sho

mark sanford, thank you very much. >> yes ma'am. >> by the way, who was that commentator who threatenedord as he just revealed? he just revealed himself, that is ahead. >>> plus, just hours from now, the supreme court showdown. the justices will hear the case about weather donald trump should be kicked off of the ballot. >>> and, in georgia, tonight, trump's lawyer accuses fani willis of racism and wants the judge to dismiss the case. this is newsnight. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >>> tonight, it is the calm before court. tomorrow, donald trump's 14th amendment fight, a fight to stay on colorado's ballot, goes on to the justices docket. the wall street journal editorial board has weighed in on oral arguments. they rate, at 90 decision would send a unified message to the country. the colorado is wrong on the lot. joined me now to discuss is elie mystal, the justice correspondent and columnist for the nation magazine. he also hosts a new podcast, contempt of court, with atlanta stall. so, elie, what do you think will happen tomorrow inside of that court? the journal seems pretty confident that it will be

i was friendly with mark and ginny sanford. i first met them more than 20 years ago when i was covering the south carolina primary my now wife and i watched the super bowl at the governor's mansion in 2004 mark going awol, reading poetry in the bible while on a week long solo hike. that frankly seemed totally believable. so when folks begins speculating about cd possibilities, i wrongly wrote it off as the worst kind of sensationalist journalists and then when it was proven true, i felt dong, i felt duped for naively believing that i ever knew mark sanford, the person when i really only knew mark sanford the politician >> all right, the all new cnn original series, united states of scandal starts tomorrow at 09:00 p.m. all right, there are growing questions today about whether former president trump will be able to pay a massive judgment in his civil fraud trial if the ruling against trump hold up on appeal, how would he pay it? cnn's kristen holmes explains how he could use political donations to help foot part of the bill fred

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and mark sanford, that didn't happen tomorrow the mark didn't get impeached, >> he finished his term >> and he actually won another race for the united states congress by being honest to himself, being honest to his conservative political values, and being honest with the public the real mark sanford was able to shake the perfection of the past and start building a new story. even if it took him a long walk along the appalachian trail to get there >> welcome to the whole story. i'm anderson cooper last week, former president donald trump asked the supreme court to take up the issue of presidential immunity. further delaying his federal criminal trial related to the 2020 election in the january 6 attack on the capitol. now the claim was already heard and rejected by a federal appeals court it's now up to the highest court to decide to take the case or to let the ruling stand and clear the way for this trial to begin. now the timing is crucial because the former president is likely to become the republican nominee and he wants to delay the trial until after voters head to the polls in

scandals take people completely out the game and mark sanford that didn't happen to martin, a mark didn't get impeached, >> he finished his term >> and he actually won another race for the united states congress by being honest to himself, being honest to his conservative political values, and being honest with the public the real mark sanford was able to shake the perfection of the past and start building a new story. even if it took him, a long walk along the appalachian trail to get >> yet there >> hello, and welcome to our viewers joining us in the united states and around the world and streaming on cnn max. i'm anna coren live from hong kong, just to hit a russian flag rises over the fallen ukrainian town of avdiivka. a stark reminder of the challenges kyiv's troops we facing if us aid drives up >> but in >> washington, the increasingly urgent calls to unlock additional aid for ukraine falling on absent ii and israel sets a deadline for the release of hostages before it expands military operations. >> in rough >> we begin in a town in eastern ukraine, russian flags and now flying ove

a level where they remove them from their orbit, whether it's john edwards or eliot spitzer or mark sanford and on and on and so they don't have anyone around them to tell them, don't do that. and that's often when they get into trouble. >> jake tapper. thank you very much. thanks, abby, looking forward to watching this the sunday, you can tune in sunday night for the new cnn original series, the united states and staff scandal with jake tapper. it premieres with back-to-back episodes at 09:00 p.m. eastern only right here here on cnn global condemnation tonight against vladimir putin after the sudden death of his biggest foe, alexey navalny. why the timing is suspicious and whether putin felt empowered after donald trump invited him to invade nato allies. that's next >> dianne not guilty. i am resigning administration >> officials destroyed my cover. >> politics. we're great power meets questionable decision-making. >> and then on faces from iowa, backroom deals, cia, aac affairs, bribery, corruption prostitution. as someone who lives for politics when a major scandal unfold holds, i have t

and mark sanford, that didn't happen tomorrow and didn't get impeached, but he finished his term and he actually won another race for the united states congress by being honest to himself, being honest to his conservative political values, and being honest with the public the real mark sanford was able to shake the perfection of the past and start building a new story. even if it took him, a long walk along the appalachian trail to get them >> every day in every state across the country our political system is bankrolled by an army of fundraisers pulling in millions of dollars a >> race. sometimes it looks like you might have imagine knocking on doors, calling every name in the phonebook and emails, so many emails. but for all those little fish throwing 100 to their local race, it's the whales, those campaign fundraisers really need powerful, rich individuals and companies. and when they donate 25,000, 100,000 once in $1 they want a favor or ten. >> it should be >> obvious that that's corrupt, >> but with a wink and nod political deals to the bribery line every single day. and we may

seemed totally out of character, but his constituents would learned that they did not know the real mark sanfordoining us now is the host and executive producer of the united states of scandal. jake tapper. jake great to have you here and you know what it comes to sanford specifically, you were actually friendly with him when all of this erupted? what was it like to see the dual identities of him as the man, but also as the politician play out so we've cover six different scandals in the series, but this is the only one that i really had a personal connection to because as you note, i had known then congressman, then governor sanford for ten years. i met him when i was covering the maken campaign in 1999, 2000, he was one of the few members of the house who endorsed mccain. so i'd known him and his wife, jenny and their sons marshall landon, bolton, and blake and i'd watch the super bowl at the governor's mansion in 2004 because i just happened to be there and happened to run into him at the capitol. he invited me over. >> so it was very bizarre for me because i wasn't a constituent of his, but

for more, i want to bring in former south carolina governor and former republican congressman mark sanford. we've heard words like chaos and embarrassment. how would you describe the last 24 hours for your former republican colleagues in the house? >> well, to state the obvious, a mess. both on the house side with the failed impeachment attempt which was about messaging and what would happen or not happen on the border and consequences there of. and on the senate side with the bill crumbling and falling apart. it's, i think it is probably a more complex story than the one you made out. it has been messy over the last 24 hours. >> this bipartisan deal was declared dead by mike johnson in the house. yet other republican members were ready to negotiate to get something done. at the end of the day, everybody has to be willing to give up their sacred cows. democrats certainly did. they gave up honestly quite a lot. is this a leadership failure of congressional leadership, particularly in the house to come to the table? >> i don't know about a leadership failure. i think it is a couple things. o

. >> reporter: mark sanford is out of politics because he hasn't a different take on trump. sanford was the republican governor before haley then he won his house seat back in 2013 but he lost the republican primary in 2018 because he criticized trump's spending and sometimes his tone. >> i would say i'm for trump in this area and against in these areas. people didn't want nuanced, are you for or against? he's in agreement, when haley criticizes trump for the chaos and spending, but he expects a trump win here. >> that which traditionally worked in gop politics isn't working these days. >> i've seen this erosion, you have too. you go from tea party, sort of perot movement to tea party to trump. it's metastasized in ever aggressive forms in what started out as well meaning americans saying we have to have do something about politicians doing what they said they were going to do into something much more strident as their religion. i don't know how else to explain it. >> hartsville is two hours from the coast. billy pierce here for 70 years except a stint in the navy is another

i was friendly with mark and jenny sanford. there are some scandals we never saw coming, such as when the governor of south carolina dropped off the face of the earth. so he could fly to argentina to have an affair when it was proven true, i felt don i felt duped for naive lee believing that i ever knew mark sanford, the person, and we will revisit scandals that you think you know, i engaged in adults consensual affair with another man, giving you an up-close perspective. >> and 3,000 for the democrats chronic governor of new jersey, jim agreement stepped into a press room just like this and became an overnight sensation. >> i have decided the right course of action is to resign. >> we were also quick to embrace the headline that we may have forgotten to dig a little deeper because the reason why jim agree be resigned is a lot more complicated than we remember. >> they didn't wake up and say i'm going to be deceptive for the sake of deceiving and we'll speak to some of the key players in scandals that were so explosive, the fal

i was friendly with mark and ginny sanford. there are some scandals we never saw coming, such as when the governor of south carolina dropped off the face of the earth so he could fly to argentina to have an affair when it was proven true, i felt don i felt duped for naive lee believing that i ever knew mark sanford, the person, and we will revisit scandals that you think, you know, i engaged in an adult consensual affair with another man giving you an up-close perspective. >> and 2000 and for the democratic governor of new jersey, jim aggrieved. he stepped into a pressroom just like this and became an overnight sensation decided the right course of action is to resign. >> we were also put to embrace the headline that we may have forgotten to dig a little deeper because the reason why jim agreement resigned is a lot more complicated. then we remember that i didn't wake up and >> say you're not i'm going to be deceptive for the sake of deceiving and we'll speak to some of the key players in scandals that were so explosive the fal

. >> reporter: mark sanford is out of politics because he has a very different take on trump. sanford was the republican governor here before haley. then he won his old house seat back in 2013. but sanford lost a republican primary in 2018 because he criticized trump's spending and sometimes his tone. >> for trump in this area but against trump in these different areas. but people didn't want nuance. they want are you for or against him. >> reporter: sanford now is in agreement when haley criticizes trump for all the chaos and all the deficit spending. yet he expects a big trump win here. >> that which has traditionally worked in gop politics isn't so much working these days. yeah, i've seen this erosion, you have too, you go from tea party, sort of perot movement to tea party to trump. it's metastasized in ever aggressive forms. and what started out as a lot of well-meaning americans saying look, we've got to do something about politicians doing what they said they were going to do into something much more strident is their religion. i mean, i don't know how else to explain i

. >> reporter: mark sanford is out of politics because he has a very different take on trump.rd was the republican governor here before haley. then he won his old house seat back in 2013, but sanford lost the republican primary in 2018 because he criticized trump's spending and sometimes his tone. >> i would say, well, i'm for trump in this area but against him in these different areas. people don't want nuance. they want are you before or against him. >> sanford is in agreement when haley criticized trump for the chaos and deficit spending yet he expects a big trump win here. >> that which has traditionally worked in gop politics isn't so much working these days. i have seen this erosion. you have, too. you go from tea party, sort of perot movement to tea party, it's ma ietastasized. we need to do something about politicians doing what they said they were going to do into something much more strident is their religion. i don't know how else to explain it. >> reporter: heartsville is two hours inland from the coast. billy pierce here for 70 years except for a stint in the navy

. >> mark sanford us out of politics, because he has a very different take on trump.ford was the republican governor before, haley and who won his old house seat back in 2013, but sanford lost a republican primary in 2018 because he criticized trump spending, and sometimes this tone. >> i would say well i'm for trump in this area, but i'm against in these different areas. -- are you for or against him? >> he nods in agreement when it really criticizes trump for all the, chaos and all the deficit spending. yet, he expects a big trump win here. >> that which is traditionally warranted in gop politics, isn't so much working these days. i've seen this, erosion you have as, well you go from tea party, sort of pro-movement to tea party to trump, it is metastasized in a regressive form, what started out as a lot of well meaning americans saying, look, we have to do something about politicians doing what they said they were going to do into something much more strident. it is their religion. i don't know how else to explain it. >> it is just two hours in length from the, coas

>> yeah, one of the profiles, one of the shows is about governor mark sanford, the south carolina governor> jimmy: yeah. where was he actually? >> he was in south america with his lover. >> jimmy: yes, yes, right, yes. >> which is not the same thing as hiking on the appalachian trail. [ laughter ] that was kind of an education for me in believing the best in politicians. >> jimmy: ah. >> because i knew him. and i didn't necessarily believe the best of him, but i didn't believe the worst. that's when he said he was hiking the appalachian trail, i didn't think, "oh, so he has a lover in south america." >> jimmy: awfully specific. you had an interview with rod blagojevich. >> former governor of illinois. >> jimmy: very interesting character. guy with the hair. by the way, donald trump -- >> yes. >> jimmy: he was a democrat, but somehow donald trump got involved -- >> he had been on "celebrity apprentice." >> jimmy: oh, that's right. >> he had been on "celebrity apprentice." so donald trump knew him. and his wife would go on fox and talk to -- i think -- yes, then president trump and beg for a

jake also looks at the extramarital affair confession from former south carolina governor mark sanford after his office claims he was hiking the appalachian trail again, united states of scandal starts at 09:00 p.m. sunday night here on cnn the news continues right here on cnn welcome, to all of you watching us >> here in the eyes states, canada, and around the world, i'm kim brunhuber ahead on cnn newsroom, world leaders react to the death of kremlin critic alexei navalny, find out who us president joe biden is blaming directly as news of navalny's deaths settles at the munich security conference, european leaders look at how they may have to defend themselves with the less engaged united states, especially if donald trump becomes president again. and speaking of the former president, he's lashing out the massive fines imposed by a court over fraudulent business practices amid questions over who will run the family business >> live from atlanta >> this is >> cnn newsroom with kim brunhuber from wash string tin to berlin, and moscow. there's strong reaction around the world to the deat

. >> seth: yeah, and you can get away with anything when you're governor was it mark sanford who saidppalachian trail? >> the appalachian trail, yeah >> seth: i mean, these are in -- and i will say, blagojevich is one of my favorite and thank you very much. you did use a clip >> of course >> seth: from "weekend update. >> of course >> seth: although i do have an issue with it. >> oh-oh >> seth: let's show the clip real quick >> okay. >> the hair. so iconic in its own right that it became a comedy staple on every late-night show. >> the hair. >> the hair. >> really. it looks like you're wearing a toupee that's also wearing a toupee [ laughter ] >> what's the issue? >> seth: i also had jokes in that [ laughter ] i said, he looks like a fisher price man who's wearing his hair backwards. [ light laughter ] >> amy's joke was better >> seth: yeah. [ laughter and applause i'll take it >> but were you head - were you head writer at the time >> seth: yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah >> so it's - >> seth: yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah [ light laughter ] >> it's like greta ger

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mark sanford said tell take a meteor strike for aisle in win in south carolina. do you agree?sity poll of south carolina coming out in the morning that shows trump with a 28-point lead over nikki haley. and you talk about the things that trump has said that are controversial, that don't have an impact. you know, he mocked michael haley -- nikki haley's husband who is deployed, a national guardsman who's deployed abroad. we checked whether that resonated with military families in south carolina. trump's support among military families in south carolina does not seem to be dented at all. in fact, it is stronger than his support among nonmilitary families, families who do not have someone in the military. so this new poll certainly shows that trump continues to be very strong even in the state that twice elected nikki haley governor. andrea? >> you know, susan, it's striking, "the new york times" reports trump is backing a 16-week abortion ban to try to gain anti-abortion voters -- >> -- >> we just have to see what he does here. i want to tell both of you that evangelical voters

much for joining us now from south carolina, another former republican governor from that state, mark sanford also with us cnn senior political commentator, the former obama senior adviser, david axelrod, governor sanford, i'll start with you. a recent poll in your her state of south carolina showed nikki haley losing to trump in her home state by more than 30 to 30%. you said it would be it would take a bd or strike for her to win south carolina. so why do you think she's actually staying in this race now? >> i suspect it would probably a couple of reasons. one would be in politics were all ultimately bars of soap or bottle of shampoo. you know, if you're going to brand then stick with your brand and i think a number of these candidates, former candidates, have done and horrible harm to their own brand by saying way, i'm against trump, but oh, no, i'm going to suck up to trump i think it's locking in her brand, which i think is pretty smart to a cardinal rule of politics is pick your flavor. you either pro-life or pro-choice, for instance, for, for most folks and the people who say, well, i'

jake also looks at the extramarital affair confession from former south carolina governor mark sanford after his office claimed he was hiking the appalachian trail. again, united states of scandal starts at 09:00 p.m. sunday night here on cnn the news continues right here on cnn >> outfront. next, >> the breaking news, trump's business taking a major hit, the former president ordered to pay nearly 355 million dollars and banned from doing business in the state of new york. does trump have the money to pay this? plus fani willis his father on the witness stand. and the question got so not a pan today that the judge was forced to reprimand one of the lawyers. plus what happened to alexei navalny his close friend, the investigative reporter christo grozev because i've is outfront, been working his sources all day and he has new details to share tonight. let's go outfront >> good evening. i'm erin burnett outfront tonight. the breaking news, 355 million. former president trump and his business empire taking a massive hit today, the judge in trump's new york fraud trial i'll just deciding t

jake also looks at the extramarital affair confession from former south carolina governor mark sanfordffice claimed he was hiking the appalachian trail. again, united states of scandal starts at 09:00 p.m. sunday night here on cnn the news continues right here on cnn >> outfront. next,

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again congressional district, you know, the former governor mark sanford represented it came came to congress. was governor then left the governorship. she was the governor who succeeded him. he won the seat again, then lost it because he criticized donald trump piano trump primary there. but she's got 64% of the vote. there were up to 33%. so conceivable, still a ways to go in the calc conceivable. she wins this county, but again, congressional district at this county is involved in stretches up here as well. so this math, we have to do on that. so at the moment though, in the state, she won election twice as governor, she is leading in three of 46 counties, she's getting thumped. yeah, at home. >> so and just for those trying to keep track of the delegate math, 50 delegates from south carolina, the winner gets 29 of them automatically. trump has already been assigned those in our delegate count, but then there are seven congressional districts and whoever wins the congressional district gets three delegates for each congressional district right now. and it's so early, but right now

this all happened after there was a challenge to mark sanford and made that district into more of a purpleict. redistricting has changed the makeup. we are still awaiting a court decision on that. tony what you see about nancy mace and what her relationship is with trump? she has a couple of primary challengers this june. one who ran for governor and her former chief of staff. what does that say to you when your own people are running against you? >> she has a fraught relationship with trump, as you pointed out. one of the most famous things is after trump endorsed her, she did selfies in front of trump tower. this has gone back and forth. i am desperately interested to see how that primary plays out when her own former chief of staff is against her. the question is will he and the other divide the other boats. she is fighting in a district that could end up looking different than the district she has won in in the past. if that happens, that speaks all the more into what you just heard her say. talking about she needs to talk about purple issues, women's issues and things like that. it is

hilling around charleston harbor with mark sanford, i asked him where he thinks haley is staying in andhe imagines this all might lead. >> normally money kills you off in a campaign. she's got enough money to keep going. she's got -- we call it hanging around the hoop phenomenon wherein trump can beat trump. the legal system might beat trump. trump's next hamburger might beat trump, his health, and if you hang around the hoop long enough, you never know if a straight shot is coming your way and you can down it. >> reporter: but the trial lawyer and chair of the state democratic party believes that haley is playing an even longer and impossibly shrewder game than that. >> she's pure ambition and she's good at it. i would agree with her that trump is going to lose. so the party's going to be looking for somebody when this election's over who can bring people together, who, you know, has been out on the stump, can help them raise money. i think she's looking at that and saying, i can say in writ large, i told you so. i told you so. >> reporter: i asked whether he thought in the end, haley