and mark sebastian. mark, what do you think? is the market getting ahead of the economy?looking at the exact same thing we've seen over the years. we heard the morgan stanley guy on the floor kind of hint at it. we won't see a rate hike until june. we won't see a rate hike in june or september. i think we're talking january 2016. with that in place, the stock market can keep rallying. in fact, it's good for the stock market for the economy to shrug along at this mediocre pace because it gives the fed tons of slack. yeah, i think there's more upside. >> phil, our chief economist, put together an extraordinary group of figures. in six years under obamacare, the us gdp has grown an average of 1.9%. under 2%. the s&p has been up 120%. the dow jones up -- the nasdaq up 226%. that looks tope to me. not to you? >> i wouldn't say tope. i would say bubblish, dave. and i think we're living in a bubble. have you ever been inside a bubble? you're breathing in helium. you don't know what's going on. talk funny. that's where we're at. there's no reality down here. this is all printed m