host: mark seetin of the u.s. apple association, talk to us about the money and assistance you're looking for from the federal government. guest: the actual monetary loss we estimate his whole soft -- is wholesaled $37 billion. you could probably will supply that by five in terms of the retailer chain. what we did that u.s. apple because our rovers were so concerned, we immediately -- our growers were so concerned, we looked to the u.s. research service, which provides research support to many areas of agriculture. without that infrastructure, we would have been in very bad condition because at that time we did not know it, but in fact we have been working on this insight for a number of years. though we had an incomplete knowledge base, there was some knowledge base their with which to start. have we not had that infrastructure, we would've been in much worse condition. host: we will be talking with tracy and a few seconds, but mark seetin, what are apple growers doing to combat the stink bug in terms of pesticid