mark shaw stratford is in keith on wants . ukraine is hoping to achieve from the folks in jetta toll instead of being described by many as absolutely critical and potentially the beginnings of a long and difficult road towards piece. a lot of analysts will say that zelinski and his team will those and excuse not participating in these discussions will be keen to show that ukraine is serious about taking on board discussions towards an event show piece framework ukrainians also keen to get to a listing of these a suspension temporary suspension of us a, an access to us intelligence sharing, which is also being suspended in the last few days. and there was a general feeling that it is important for the ukrainians to put the bull in, rushes cooled by offering potentially a partial ceasefire receipts. far that would stop and attract, so strikes deep into each other's respective territory. although fighting on the ground along the front line would continue already, russia has said that it would reject any such proposal. but as i say, money analysts say it's important for russia to, to be