mark thompson, to you first, though. where do things stand with "don't ask, don't tell"? >> well, judy, we basically have two trains rushing to the same station, i think, in a matter of weeks, "don't ask, don't tell" will be history, one train is the pentagon certification process which has been under way for several months and it's designed to train troops to accept openly gay men and women in their ranks. basically the pentagon made clear today, you know, we don't have to train 100% of our troops to certify, you have to be sure to get to that destination. and it seems like they'll be on their way to doing that. and the appellate court in california, the appellate court has basically said as of friday, as you pointed out, this law is unconstitutional. the world hasn't fallen apart in the last several days because "don't ask, don't tell" is no longer being enforced but the fact is that now in our military it is not being enforced and the question is going to be which one is ultimately going to carry the day and maybe they'll merge and it will happen together. >> ifill: we