some say trump is pursuing a shadow presidency as he plans to run again in 2024. on friday, mark chief of staff for the white house, told newsmax trump is now meeting with people he called cabinet members in new jersey. mr. meadows: we met with cabinet members, had a follow-up meeting, and we are looking at what does come next. i am not authorized to speak on behalf of the president, but i can tell you this, steve, we would not be meeting tonight if we were not making plans to move forward in a real way with president trump as the head of th ticket. nermeen: philip brooker, your response -- rucker, your response, on the question particularf continuing republican support for trump. philip: the republican support continues to be very strong for donald trump and he is by far the most popular figure in republican politics today. he has made no secret about his plan to run for president in 2024, and when carol and i sat down with him it was clear to us he wanted back in the game, had the itch to get back in the arena again has a lot of time left on making a decision to launch a campai

did something overly political but he never spoke with at present about it printed like president mark trump is tweeting you're doing things the very next day. the roger stone case, like so roger stone in the sentencing recommendation comes out from the prosecutors for people try to convict him predict the approved all of the way as high as they had to go and justice department up to the u.s. attorney and that night donald trump tweeted that this is now great, a miscarriage of and an hour later bill barr takes the steps of undermining his own prosecutors and reside from the case are from the doj. and then bill barr said i didn't know and i never saw the president's tweet. and again i can't disprove that but i very dubious audit so in the mob bosses, donald trump does not have to calling people to say, there's understanding. they get into a flow are instances that there are explicit things between the two. but i think that is close of an analogy that i can make it to the mob world. with that relationship. >> of course, and one of the think so, i want to give away too much in the book so i wil

wall street journal reporter michael bender writes in his new book that mark meadows had helped introduce trump to doj attorney jeffrey clark who was putting together to oust rosen the acting a.g. and force georgia to overturn his results. mark meadows seems to be integral to all of this, was he not? >> thank you for having me. i'm joining you from my car. i apologize, we're in between summer storms here in pennsylvania in my district. i just left a roomful of montgomery county young democrats. they are so eager to learn more about what happened, what failed, who stepped up and served and who did not. so mark meadows, what a deep, deep disappointment. but you can see what happened here. as you pointed out in your reporting, this is his fourth chief of staff. trump was -- his circle was shrinking. the pool of qualified people was shrinking. and so he put people around him who was willing to do his bidding. and what these tapes reveal, it's another set of data points and i have a feeling we're going to see a white house, whether it's the chief of staff or mr. trump himself with a full-time job of

. >> so august 13th to the other dates that were supposed to mark trump's come back, january 20th day, trump would be sailing in. march 4th which came and went with nothing. here we are again. thanks so much for joining us. at 360 starts now. >>> good evening, we begin with breaking news, a new terrorism bulletin from the department of homeland security. it highlights the potential for violence surrounding the upcoming 20th anniversary of the 9/11 attacks. what seems to distinguish it, though, from similar alerts in the past, it draws on domestic factors, quoting the intelligence chief, quote, you have to pay attention to that we are see figure front of our face. so what is he talking about when he says they are seeing what is if front of their face? >> anderson, there are a number of factors addressed in this dhs bulletin. the way they look at these potential terrorists is in two camps, first, people who could be radicalized by foreign fwrums like a groups like al qaeda. people who are motivated by racial extremism, by an anti-government sentiment. in that first group, that's from dh

. >> so august 13th to the other dates that were supposed to mark trump's come back, january 20th dayh came and went with nothing. here we are again. thanks so much for joining us. at 360 starts now. >>> good evening, we begin with breaking news, a new terrorism bulletin from the department of homeland security. it highlights the potential for violence surrounding the upcoming 20th anniversary of the 9/11 attacks. what seems to distinguish it, though, from similar alerts in the

joining us now, mark meadows, former trump chief of staff. re in the room where difficult decisions were made. very difficult decisions. the bungling, which doesn't even capture it come of this afghanistan, it is setting the stage for more suffering for our troops, more national security difficulties, and politically, what does it say? >> well, hope -- sadly, sinking polls is not the worst thing that is happening here. what we see is with joe biden, it is not only a bad press conference today, but we had a tragic loss of american soldiers, marines, navy corpsmen. their lives today. and it's not going to be the end. the decisions that have been made, not just by joe biden, but by chairman millie, by secretary austin, when they gave the best military advice and they said that they were surprised that this would happen, it's not consistent with what i know, it is not consistent with what many in the intel community knows, and quite frankly, it's just not the truth. this was 100% avoidable. heads need to roll. you know why -- joe biden was knockin

mark: you know, you mentioned president trump. we didn't lose an inch of anything. >> no. ump, he was attacked. for his the way he managed his foreign policy and so forth, we never gave an inch to iran, he was crushing iran economically, never gave an inch to north korea. even though he engaged in talking with them could we surrendered nothing, we never gave an inch to anyone on any front, he shut off russian pipeline that biden game back to the russia an, and imposed toughest sanction on the old oligarchs with respect to the domestic affairs he secured border, he understands that terrorists come across the bored etoday, terrorists are more numerous probably more vigorous than before the border is wide open. general, thank you for your service, your family's service. i wish you all the best, god bless you, sir. >> thank you, mark, thank you for having me. mark: we'll be right back. and w, it was no cost to them. >> woman: really? >> tech: that's service you can trust. >> singers: ♪ safelite repair, safelite replace. ♪ good boy! [laughs] ♪ hold my pouch. ♪ trust us, us kids

in march of last year when donald trump had to pick his fourth chief of staff, he decided on mark meadows, a right-wing republican congressman from north carolina. trump said at the time i have long known and worked with marc in the relationship is a very good one. perhaps as because the two of them have a lot of common, both men made of fortune at its real estate development, meadows, like trump also hated obamacare, and they both promoted the racist birther conspiracy theory which says that he was not born here in the united states. >> it's interesting, the more we find out, the more we realize how wrong the direction we're going is, what we're gonna do is take back our country, 2012 is the time that we're gonna send mr. obama home to kenya or wherever it is, we're gonna do it. >> charming. when it came to overturning a free and fair election in 2020, mark meadows shined up for the two. back in june he reported that in trump's final week, meadows pushed the justice department to investigate unfounded conspiracy theories about the 2020 presidential election, which included debunked claim

did something overly political but he never spoke with at present about it printed like president mark trump is tweeting you're doing things the very next day. the roger stone case, like so roger stone in the sentencing recommendation comes out from the prosecutors for people try to convict him predict the approved all of the way as high as they had to go and justice department up to the u.s. attorney and that night donald trump tweeted that this is now great, a miscarriage of and an hour later bill barr takes the steps of undermining his own prosecutors and reside from the case are from the doj. and then bill barr said i didn't know and i never saw the president's tweet. and again i can't disprove that but i very dubious audit so in the mob bosses, donald trump does not have to calling people to say, there's understanding. they get into a flow are instances that there are explicit things between the two. but i think that is close of an analogy that i can make it to the mob world. with that relationship. >> of course, and one of the think so, i want to give away too much in the book so i wil

president trump's pick. mark carey, winning the carey. bout trump's influence in the party? >> it's no longer the republican party that mark grew up and was part of that donald trump completely owns this party. you see it every week. there is a parade of planes flying to mar-a-lago to beg for his endorsement, and most of his candidates are winning the election. and it says, don't be brave and go out there and cross him because you're going to get whacked. you try to look at what he is doing to liz cheney in wyoming right now. this is a party that cannot grapple with their past. and until you do that, you will not walk in the future. in 2022 in the congressional races f they are going to run these candidates, republicans will get their butts kicked, and they should. instead, they need to do what the democrats did tonight and find candidates that will work with both parties to get things done. but so far, you're not seeing them win the respect? >> yeah, mark is saying yes, jim may be correct. but texas. because there was that same defeat for

does your committee, the select committee want to pursue testimony from former trump chief of staff markness. there was clearly a campaign originating with donald trump but sweeping within it the whole executive branch to try to convert the department of justice into an instrument of the president's political will. that's extraordinary thing that not only over rides the traditional boundary between what's political in the white house and what is law enforce 7 ment in doj but really threatens the hatch act. they were attempting to get the department of justice to become essentially campaign actors for donald trump and we know that that was part of an on going odyssey by the president, the then president to overturn the 2020 election and it ended, of course, in the attempted coup and the insurrection, but in the early days, they were trying to get the doj to set the whole thing up by declaring the election corrupt and then as trump put it, just leave the rest to me and my friends in congress. >> when you say violation of the hatch act, are you talking about possible criminal behavior? >> o

president trump's pick, mark carey, winning -- mike carey, excuse me. at does that say about trump's influence in the party? >> it's no longer the republican party that mark grew up in and is part of. donald trump now completely owns this party. you see this every week. there's a parade of planes flying to mar-a-lago to beg for his endorsement. you have missouri's u.s. senate race is all about who can get trump's endorsement. and most of his candidates are winning these elections, and it says to the republicans, don't be brave. don't go out there and cross him because you're going to get whacked. you look at what he's trying to do to liz cheney as well in wyoming right now. this is just a party that cannot grapple with its past. and until you grapple with that past, you won't walk into the future. and, you know, in 2022 in these congressional races, if they're going to run these kind of candidates in these swing seats, republicans are going to get their butts kicked, and they should. instead, they need to do what the democrats did tonight and find candid

here with mark, donald trump jr. is with us. your dad put the travel ban in effect.took a lot of heat for that. your dad was able to get not one, not two but three vaccines that help save lives. your dad helped with therapeutics like regeneron and others. your dad put in place the stay in mexico policy, built the wall and he ended catch and release. boy, a lot has happened in six or seven months, hasn't it? >> it really has. it's sort of amazing how quickly our country can degenerate with the incompetent leadership. joe biden's only legacy at this point is going to be showing america how good they actually had it under donald trump. the policies are asinine. everything you've been talking about, the whole show, absolutely ridiculous. imagine donald trump release 7,000 covid infected patients into a small town in texas. that doesn't cover the rest of the border so it's probably -- think of how much exponential spread over this disease. they're simply not willing to enforce rules against illegal immigrants. americans, law-abiding american citizens are not second-class

and georgia's republican secretary of state when trump infamously said, quote, i just want to find 11,780 votes. that's way more than what he needed. so mark meadows is in on the plot, obviously. and clark, and trump, together, have a plan. and here's what appears to have been. they were going to that had been pumped into the atmosphere by trump and repeated by his allies, and the right-wing media. and use that to have the department of justice officially sent a letter to the six most closely contested states, five of which have republican-controlled legislators. and, say hey, this is the official blessing the u.s. department of justice telling you the results in your state are tainted, they can't be trusted, we don't really know who won, and by the, way you have the constitutional authority to call a special session, select the trump electors and send them over to washington. keep in mind, the republicans running the state legislatures are a receptive audience, they're the same people who in michigan went completely nuts over the governor's public health measures, or the legislators and arizona who are running the sham election audit, or

trump. been mark sector, who was the ceo of cnn said cnn has a problem, but donald trump fixed it, meaning by giving him endless coverage when he was really not a thing yet. in american politics. they built up their ratings and then he became president and they spent the next 4 years saying he was an illegitimate president. and only in the white house of it is driven by ratings. all of it is driven by money. all of it is driven for profits and again, cnn. try to present itself as the free press. well, no. it's really a corporate driven entity. the same goal that the biggest banks and wall street have, which is to make as much money as possible. brian backup, national coordinator, the onset coalition joining us life or when off into national. we appreciate it. thanks for that price or the $13.00 troops killed in those days, bombing. we're the 1st deaths of us personnel, enough canister on in many, many months, one of the largest daily death poles in a decade. a 10 of the service amended from the camp pendleton military base in california, and thousands of people have been laying flat was that

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this comes as trump's former chief of staff, mark meadows, says trump has been meeting with cabinet membersre. >> we met with some of our cabinet members tonight. we had a follow-up member meeting with some of our cabinet meters. as we were looking at that, we were looking at what does come next. i'm not authorized to speak on behalf of the president. i can tell you this, steve, we wouldn't be meeting tonight if we weren't making plans to move forward in a real way and with president trump at the head of that ticket. >> joining me is katty kay, washington editor. how do you interpret what meadows said? he talks about the president. he talks about the cabinet. >> unofficially donald trump is running, right? and while he's running unofficially it's impossible for other candidates like ron desantis who might want to jump into the race to start making any plans made public. it was weird the language mark meadows used. it's not the cabinet. it is the former cabinet. >> former cabinet, exactly. >> the former president. the former cabinet. it's clearly not the cabinet. with that teaser at the end,

after meeting with the ex-president and others on friday, trump's former chief of staff, mark meadowsim as if he were still in office, referring to it as a, quote, cabinet meeting, like some sort of government in exile. but he's not just providing new fodder to trump's conspiratorial base, he's teasing trump's plan to regain power in 2024. >> i wanted to join you to talk about really a president that is fully engaged, highly focused and remaining on task. >> chief, do you want to break any news from your meetings with president trump? >> well, we met with some of our cabinet members tonight. we're looking at what does come next. i'm not authorized to speak on behalf of the president. >> okay. >> but i can tell you this, steve, we wouldn't be meeting tonight if we weren't making plans to move forward in a real way and with president trump at the head of that ticket. >> for real people given that trump has yet to be held accountable for inspiring a failed coup to hold on to power, it's no surprise that he's now plotting a second act. in fact, the big lie is so insidious within the gop t

mark meadows is a man who also participated in an attempt on the life of american democracy. now, there's some conflicting reporting about how trump and clark originally got linked up. in his new book, michael bender writes mark meadows had helped introduce trump to doj attorney jeffrey clark who was putting together a secret plan to oust rosen, the acting attorney general, and force georgia to overturn its results. we know from emails released by the house oversight committee at the end of december, beginning of january, right before january 6th, that meadows was repeatedly pressing rosen to investigate so-called voter fraud, including sending one email january 1st that read, quote, there have been allegations of signature match anomalies in fulton county, georgia. i love the passive tense. there have been allegations. can you get jeff clark to engage on this issue immediately to determine if there's any truth to this allegation? meadows is asking them to call on clark because he knows clark is on the team. the next day meadows arranged a call between trump and georgia's republican secretary of state when trump infamously said, q

a pac made a six-figure buy last week on trump's chosen candidate in ohio mike kerry. nbc news political editor mark murray is with us now. mark, some big named surrogates came to down for brown and turner over the weekend and what should we watch for in the ohio 11th primary tomorrow? >> yeah, the democratic race has given me ptsd of the bernie

trump. that said, is congress going to want that circus? i'm doubtful. however, mark it's going to get really interesting, two members of the house, mccarthy and jim jordan both admitted talked that they had conversations with donald trump on that day. also, we know the committee is going to go out and get phone records, key communications and bringing me back to my prosecutor days. this is what a sample phone record from verizon will look like. it will tell you what number is making the call. what number is receiving the call exactly what date and to the second what time that call was made and finally over here how many seconds long that call was. so this is going to tell you who was in touch with who in those key moments leading up to and during and after the attack. finally, we know that there have been very broad requests for all these federal agencies. the one that's really interesting to me is the national archives. you may be thinking, why the national archives? that's where the parchment copy of the declaration of independence are. they have the trump white ho

coming that john durham is taking criminal charges to a grand jury in the botched trump-russia probe. reports are that markirm to fusion gps to the anti-trump opposition research that the doj watchdog said was totally flawed, embellished, filled with speculation. you're saying this fact, him as middleman, was hidden not revealed in federal election filings. is that a problem? >> he was fairly public out there but the way you get around a lot of these individual expenditures is, you have to itemize how you're expending money in a political campaign but if you pour as they did in the hillary clinton campaign ten plus million dollars into a law firm, then the law firm goes out and does all of this stuff, then there is no disclosure. i'm saying that people on both sides of the aisle do that. it is the way that at the get around this but the question i think for federal law enforcement is, did they use this money to plant these stories that therefore could be turned around and be the impetus for a probe into donald trump? if it is fiction, if they made it up, if they provided the fbi bogus information, stuff th

culmination of a much longer effort that we are now learning more and more about from donald trump at the helm of it through mark meadows and others to overturn this election. and so the fact that donald trump was threatening to fire jeffrey rosen, the doj, because he was not doing enough to call out the corrupt, quote/unquote, election in georgia, and the fact that he was trying to get the military involved and that he was pressuring brad raffensperger in georgia and other state officials, what i would do as a prosecutor is take a step back and look at all of the different efforts that donald trump undertook himself to overturn this election and i would put everything this context and then with january 6th as kind of the culmination of that effort. but if you narrow it to january 6th, it's a much tougher case, and i think you feed to broaden it out and see if there is a conspiracy among donald trump and others, perhaps some involved in january 6th on the front lines, but some involved perhaps behind the scenes. >> 30 seconds left. i want to ask. you mentioned others. the citizens for responsibility and ethics s

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what trump had planned for afghanistan and you will hear it from the man trump appointed to take over the dod after he fired mark s per. joined me former pentagon chief of staff and advisor to donald trump. this was a fight against the swamp entrenched pentagon bureaucracy. was it not? >> thanks for having me and you said it, donald trump sent me over there and said we have a condition controlled withdrawal from afghanistan, surrender any affiliation or reject al qaeda and sit down at a table, the afghan government and television and negotiate interim peace government that will last and 3 and most importantly that if any americans interest is armed, any american personnel his arm donald trump informed us doing the full wrath of the united states military to protect our citizens abroad and we are prepared to do that and lastly, we were going to be the special operations force and country for counterterrorism purposes so that is a coordinated strategic plan that has conditions which is lacking today. jillian: it is -- laura: it didn't take long for the former defense secretary marcus for to play the blame game. >>

. >> so they will attack president trump one more time. markyou make an important point, nancy pelosi is in charge of security, sergeant in arms reports to her. who -- or head of capitol police who has been ousted has not been called to testify. nypd got rumbling about events that were going to occur, they positived it to fbi, christopher wray, i don't know what will hee diseveryid day. the only person who was concerned about security then was president trump who offered 10,000 national guardsmen who were turned down. we will pursue that when we come back, we'll be right back. have . that needs to change. so, i did something. i created a black business accelerator at amazon. and now we have a program that's dedicated to making tomorrow a better day for black businesses. ♪ ♪ i am tiffany. and this is just the beginning. ♪ ♪ your shipping manager left to “find themself.” leaving you lost. you need to hire. i need indeed. indeed you do. indeed instant match instantly delivers quality candidates matching your job description. visit indeed.com/hire

mark: welcome back america, next guest steven miller, former adviser to president trump.rst legal. steven miller. a couple questions to begin with. joe biden is obsessively attacking governor desantis of florida. because joe biden as we know is a top medical and health expert. he has been right about so much in his career, and during his senate. career, and a president. and a candidate when he was attacking vaccines. so this constant of the vaccine and poe -- politicalization of mask wearing. he can careless how many illegal aliens come into this country from all corners of the planet who have coronavirus, who have the delta variant. maybe have other diseases, long successfully fought off by americans healthcare system. even worse, you have rapists, sexual predators, and ms-13 coming across the border. what kind of mentality does it take for a president of united states, when he has the power to do something on southern border allows this kind of mayhem to take place and keeps attacking republican governors. >> you have to begin by understanding something that you covered

trump had planned for afghanistan, and he will hear it from the man trump appointed to take over the dod after he fired defense secretary marker. former pentagon chief of staff cash, this was a fight against the swamp in trench pentagon bureaucracy, was it not? >> yeah, laura, thanks for having me. you hit it right on the head, president trump sent me over there and said, listen, we have a conditions-controlled withdrawal from afghanistan, that is they have to surrender any affiliation and totally reject al qaeda. two, they have to sit at a table with the afghan government and the taliban and negotiated an interim peace government that will last, and three and most importantly that if any american personnel is harmed, president trump informed us to bring the whole wrath of the united states military to protect their citizens abroad, and we were prepared to do that, and lastly we were always going to lead a special operations force for counterterrorism purposes. so that is a court and narrated -- coordinated strategic plan which is totally lacking today. >> laura: it did not take long, cash, as you expect for the former defen

so all of the documentation that we have of trump and mark meadows reaching into the justice departmento pressure them to carry out these investigations and try to flip the results in georgia, meet that quite scarily. >> so, john, according to new reporting by our justice reporter evan perez. and this is really interesting. because i lay that all out. so much of it involves the department of justice. the department of justice according to evan right now is not looking at these events as prosecutable right now. so, john, what is your reaction to that? and is the doj doing enough? >> that's fairly stunning reporting. i'm kind of disappointed with the department, come what may, they should be investigating this, even if it's to exonerate trump. which i can't imagine. but to at least dig into it. they're sort of waiting for the results of the assistant u.s. attorney's investigation in the district of colombia to see if anything surfaces and head up. they are kind of waiting for a crime to quall in their lap. i don't think that's appropriate. i guarantee, i didn't blow the whistle in waterga

>> the most charitable explanation is mark meadows is playing to the audience of one, donald trump.is watching this, mark meadows is actually one of the people who has spoken less about the idea of fraud, publicly he seems to me to straddle a line and while that's fine and, you know, i understand that he has his constituencies with president -- form er president trump, there' a bunch of people who believe this conspiracy theory which is false that he could get eninstated. trump himself tried to push his own aides to talk about that idea publicly. a bunch resisted doing it. mark meadows is not a dumb man, knows if he is saying something like that, there is a risk that people are going to hear it and going to take it seriously. i realize that harkens back to the whole literally seriously debate with donald trump was pretty meaningless. the reality is that former presidents don't have cabinets and don't have cabinet meetings. this creates this -- that's not how we describe election meetings in this country. and this just creates this expectation for some of trump supporters who are loo

trump supporters, hundreds of them, every day. they don't believe that joe biden won legitimately. many of them do believe something is going to happen this month. for markand say president trump is meeting with his cabinet, again, in one respect it's bizarro, but it's dangerous. because he's playing with fire. the threat of violence, brianna, this month of august, is real. i know, because i hear it every day. shame on mark meadows for putting stuff like that out there. >> playing footsie with qanon conspiracies, right? very specifically choosing his words, talking about the president is on task, talking about meeting with his cabinet? again, it seems very deliberate. as you say, joe, dangerous. >> john, he knows what he's saying. again, i know mark mediadows we. he's no dummy. he knows exactly what he's saying. and there's part of you that wants to believe that they're just pacifying donald trump and they're trying to appease donald trump, but, john, you nailed it. again, i hear from hundreds of his supporters every day. many of them -- i think a lot of people in the country don't realize this, because january 6th was such a shock. the threat of violenc

mark: you know, you mentioned president trump.er president trump. high was attacked. for his way high managed his fore -- he managed his foreign policy, g we never gave an incho iran, high was crushing iran economically or an inch to north korea, he did talk with them, we surrendered nothing. we never gave an inch to anyone on any front, high shut off russian pipeline. that biden game back to the russians, he imposed toughest sanctions to the oligarchs that any president in my lifetime with and respect to domestic affairs he secured border, he understands among other things that terrorists can come across the border, today the terrorists are more numerous probably more vigorous than before. the borderr is wide open. general thank you for your service, your y family's service to the country. i wish you all the best, god bless you, sir. >> thank you, mark. mark: we'll be right back. ein with 20 grams of protein for muscle health. versus 16 grams in ensure high protein. boost® high protein also has key nutrients for immune support. b

they want records from former chief of staff mark meadows, members of the trump family. chairman bennie thompson is saying records from several hundred people. will this committee get everything they want, do you think? i'm sure they'll fight it, but they're asking for a lot. will they be able to get all of this? >> don, i do think they'll be able to get much of the information they have requested from the various departments and agencies. that's true. to the extent -- i'm sure that donald trump will try to fight some of the testimony that's going to be solicited from his former staff. mark meadows, his family, and others. i'm sure they're going to try to fight that legally, any request they think would be privileged. so i would watch that. but this document dump is going to inform the entire investigation. i'll tell you what, i would be very nervous if i were some of the congressional -- or at least house republicans who may have had conversations with the president. they're going to want to know what happened prior to january 6 and what happened shortly thereafter. i m

eight federal agencies covers records involving melania trump, donald jr., eric and ivanka trump, jared kushner, mark meadows, hope hicks, stephen miller, and kayleigh mcenany, among others. investigators are focused on whether trump wanted to use the military to remain in power and whether administration officials considered invoking the 25th amendment to remove trump during his final weeks in office. in michigan, a federal judge has disciplined nine pro-trump attorneys, including sidney powell and lin wood, over their unsubstantiated claims in a lawsuit falsely claiming that the 2020 election was stolen. the lawyers will have to pay the legal fees for the city of detroit and other defendants, and they face sanctions that could lead to their disbarment. also in michigan, 25-year-old ty garbin was sentenced wednesday to six years in prison for his role in plotting to kidnap michigan democratic governor gretchen whitmer last year. garbin was the first of 14 men arrested over the plot to be sentenced and received a reduced penalty after he agreed to cooperate with federal investigators. a u.s. appeals

trump. some of the names mentioned in that letter will be familiar to observers of the white house, rudy giuliani, pat cipollone, markldren except tiffany as well as roger stone. they are going back to december 1, more than a month before the events of january 6, to try to trace the steps to create a version of events leading up to that attack and broadly speaking this is an aggressive at the same time on the part of the committee in terms of what they believe the scope of their investigative powers are in that pe believe this is a fire had been kindling for quite a long time and someone threw a match on it. they want to know who talked to who and get information such as schedules, calls, they want logs, they want information about the meetings people had. they are going for broke, they want all the information that they can possibly get that could paint a picture, paint a narrative of what really happened and what caused that attack on this capitol. >> thank you so much. we need to turn away now for breaking news out of afghanistan because we have just heard from the pentagon press secretary, there has been some sor

neil: mark, president trump weighed in on this whole booster thing which seemed very cynical about itquote him "is just crazy." what does you make of that? >> well i think we've got to look at the evidence and that's why there's going to be an announcement this afternoon, that's why there's a meeting coming up in the coming week, by the experts, advising scientific experts, independent experts advising the center for disease control, but the evidence, as i said, is accumulating that the boosters will make a difference, and this is actually not new. this is a way that most vaccines work. you try to give a couple doses typically at least several months apart. we did two doses early on for this one, to have maximum immunity fast because so much covid was spreading in the united states, so this is actually pretty typical, just because you're getting another booster shot in the coming months doesn't mean you're going to need one, every six months hereafter. this one should do a good job, that's what the data is showing in preventing further infection for a while. neil: so i guess what i'm

trump's campaign. book chronicles much of the chaos and disorganization that marked the reelection effort, disastrous dysfunctionalnse to the coronavirus crisis, the internal battles between trump and military advisers over whether to unleash soldiers on civil rights protests and much, much more. the review of the book, nuance, sharp and fairly reviewing and publishers turned the work in immersive blow by blow onedown. michael's conversation partner here this evening has been the columnist for the wall street journal since 2000. she's also the author of 9 books, u.s. politics history and culture, most recent of which was time of our lives. so michael and peggy, the screen is yours. >> thank you. thank you so much, brad. it is wonderful to be back at politics and pros where i had some of my most wonderful and most spirited and most full of back and forth readings from past books and q&a's with your audiences and i hope when this is all over and i have another book out i can come back and see you all again. it is great to spend an hour on this august evening with mike bender, senior white house reporter as you know

leave earlier, trump and april was touting the fact that he would have left sooner and biden dragging h is feet. that was his point weeks before all of this happened. and of course mark is right. so the trump administration was all over the place with bad ideas but i do want to point out that it was in 2009 and the beginning of the obama administration when they did an afghan review that vice president joe biden stood up and said, no, it is time to go. he has known for more than 12 years that we didn't have a mission we could achieve that we were putting too many lives at risk and we were spending too much money and resources better spent elsewhere. he's been making this case long before, you know, donald trump arrived on the scene and his critics arrived in the scene with this. he's been following. he was the chairman of the senate foreign relations committee when we went into afghanistan. >> yeah. >> some of it is tragic and we have been watching it around the world and a lot of complex. we just take it as we go here so we are indebted to everyone here. >>> while joe biden is still in afghanistan, any president has to do more than one thing at a time. we have two o

trump and acting and deputy attorney general. richard donohue took thorough notes of the entire conversation and some sentences he put in quotation marksdon't have to yourselves overturn the election. all you have do is say the election was corrupt and leave the rest to me" is the sentence in quotes. it was clear, startling and one of the first times we've seen that declaration in trump's own words so blatantly. >> "leave the rest to me." everybody who is outraged and disgusted were already outraged and disgusted. is anything going to happen to him, now that this has been exposed. >> i don't know, the justice department has grounds for investigation based on indicate east's reporting. saying the election was corrupt is on its face appears to violate a federal statute that makes it a crime to command a federal employee to engage in political activity. that's a three-year felony and low-hanging fruit. president trump said he knew it was false "say it was rupt." we all know this isn't true. i'm just asking you say this. this opens him to allegations of election fraud, perhaps inclined conspiracy, the charge robert mueller against the russ

so bought and sold the public as the antidote to donald trump is migration policies will mark it is fair and humane. a far cry from his previous us as children in case you scandal of what he wanted his barrier to look like, including spiked steel slats seriously. mister president, what is the matter with you? children's lives do literally hang in the balance. donald trump caused this crisis . he originally took credit for it, but now donald trump is running from what he did. and it did seem change was afoot, a series of trump policies were nouns soon after taking office. some tangible like reversing from so called muslim travel by other proposals, more symbolic, like replacing alien with non citizen and immigration law. whatever their aims, those measures didn't stop a disastrous border crisis from developing just this july. more than 200000 people cross the mexican border, bringing total numbers is january to 1100000. that's enough to create the 10th largest city in the us. and the issue isn't getting any easier. ah, the faced with this, the white house has been in no hurry to repeal so

trump emphasized therapeutics. where is this administration on therapies for sick people? >> mark: they are nowhere.are working on, anything they're working on with the private sector. you know full well if they were, they would be touting it as the next great invention. we will be right back. t you tak, sgt. houston. thank you. that was fast! one call to usaa got her a tow, her claim paid... ...and even her grandpa's dog tags back. get a quote. priceline works with top hotels, to save you up to 60%. these are all great. and when you get a big deal... you feel like a big deal. ♪♪ priceline. every trip is a big deal. and there you have it- woah. ♪♪ wireless on the most reliable network nationwide. wow. -big deal! ...we get unlimited for just 30 bucks. sweet, i get that too and mine has 5g included. that's cool, but ours save us serious clam-aroonies. relax people, my wireless is crushing it. that's because you all have xfinity mobile with your internet. it's wireless so good, it keeps one upping itself. [swords clashing] - had enough? - no... arthritis. here. new aspercreme arthritis. full prescripti