let's get the latest on the debate in washington from colorado senator mark udall who joins us right the latest piece of information is that 3:30 we do expect to hear from leader mcconnell, as well as from speaker boehner. what do you expect them to say here? >> i don't have inside information. i would hope they would say let's pass a combination of the boehner/reid/mcdonnell proposals. in particular, we've got to extend the debt ceiling through next year. not because of political situations, but because we've got to make sure we provide certainty to the markets and we don't get ourselves in another mess like we are in right now. this isn't good for the economy. it's not good for job creation. our focus ought to be on the economy and jobs. frankly, we are not focused on that matter right now. that is the most important thing to the american people. >> this just happened. four republicans did not sign the gop letter against senator reid's bill as-is at the moment. what does that say? some sort of modification or compromise can happen? >> there are conversations with my fellow republic

what the corrupt and overbearing government is trying to do with it the senators ron wyden and mark udall both deserve a round of applause today as wired's danger room found out that you are sending a letter today directly to the director of national intelligence james clapper and you see thanks to the smartphones that we all carry around geolocation technology has made it increasingly easier to spy on us to monitor our every move and senators wider than you all want to know if the intelligence agencies in this country think that they have the right to track this whenever they want see widens already introduced legislation that would require that law enforcement get warrants but as of now that's going to the supreme court where of course the obama administration is going to be furiously fighting to get them to rule that they can spy on you warrant free but that doesn't apply to the intelligence agencies or for the purpose of simplicity let's just call them the spies they've been using the phys amendments act which was passed under bush in two thousand and eight to make all of that warrant

we have one our side that mark udall has worked on. if they want a balanced budget vote we want to have one. it seems odd to me, however, for something as important as this to get the bare majority they got in the house yesterday, they put in their bill that you have to actually pass a constitutional amendment before they will allow the debt to be increased. that is a little extreme. we're happy to have a vote on balanced budget amendments. we had them before. on your other question -- we've had two wars that this administration didn't start either one of them. we don't need to go in to the wars. i haven't been a big fan of iraq war. that war was cost us almost $2 trillion. the afghanistan and iraq war is winding down. office management of budget office has looked at this and said if you take a trillion dollars and lower the debt and allow us to take additional $200 billion in interest savings, that is what we have in our bill. it's all been done by non-partisan congressional budget office. i can't imagine the fact they have voted for

senator mark udall said it is a lot of support to turn the gang into a mob. kay bailey hutchinson said she thought it could get 60 votes and although she is optimistic that the house should like this plan, because it has spending cuts and i believe it will spur the economy. the plan, itself, is two parts, and the first is $500 billion in cuts and new revenues. and the second part is to reform the tax code to raise $1 trillion in tax reforms and then another bill to save another $2 trillion by cutting discretionary spending and entitlements medicare and medicaid and ultimately social security. when they say that everything is on the table, they are talking about this kind of plan. now, i don't care who you are or what you believe, there is a lot you won't like here. there is a lot frankly not to like here and there is a lot i don't like here and one imposed rule would impose a cap on discretionary spending and you need a 2/3 majority to end it, and rules like that are unusual, and there is new revenues in there, and give them credit in the spending credits it

we have one on our side that senator mark udall worked very hard to prepare. it is ready to go. we have no problem with that. they want a balanced budget vote, we want to have one. it seems r s a little odd to me however, for something as important as this, an effort to get the bear majority they have in the house yesterday, they put in their bill that a -- you have to actually pass the constitutional amendment before they will allow the debt to be increased. that's a little extreme, i would think. we're happy to have a vote on balanced budget amendments. we had them before. happy to have them again. on your other question, we whe t had two wars. this administration didn't start either one of them. that war cost us almost $2 trillion. the afghanistan war, the iraq war, are winding down. office of management and budget and the congressional budget office looked at this and said if you take a trillion dollars, it will lower the debt by a trillion dollars and allow us to take an additional $200 billion in interest savings. that's what we have in our bill. it all has been done by th

we have one on our side that senator mark udall worked very hard to prepare. it's ready to go. we have no problem with that. they want a balanced budget vote, we want to have one. it's odd to me, however, that for something as important as this an effort to get the bare majority they got in the house yesterday, they put in their bill that you have to actually pass a constitutional amendment before they will allow the debt to be increased. that's a little extreme, i think. we are happy to have a vote on balanced budget amendments. we had them before. there are two wars this administration didn't start either one of them. we don't need to go into the wars. i haven't been a fan of the iraq war, as everyone knows. that war cost us almost $2 trillion. the afghanistan war, the iraq war are winding down. the office of management budget, congressional budget said if you take $1 trillion it will lower the debt by $1 trillion and allow us to take an additional $200 billion in interest savings, that's what we have in our bill. it's all been done by the nonpartisan congressional budget off

supposed to preside last week, and three senators, senator durbin, senator merkley and my cousin mark udall stepped up to help me with presiding time. i had an amendment that was on the floor when we were dealing with the rules package, and senator harkin helped me with that proposal. so there was a real team effort within our democratic caucus to help me to be able to work on the wildfire issue out in new mexico and be able to stay there and have my capable staff and the other senators help out. and i just want to thank everybody for that team effort. now, the wildfires that are raging across new mexico are not only in new mexico. a number of states have been hit. texas, arizona, florida, and generally -- and my home state of new mexico. generally what we see in this country is the fire season starts at the southern part and moves up to the north as we go through the summer season, and in the southwest, we have had an extraordinary fire season. i was just briefed by secretary vilsack when i was out there. he talked in the southwest region about 1,600-plus fires burning 1.5 million acres. a