historian, mark updegrove, thank you for joining us today. i want to get right into it and talk about the tragic chain of.events. we heard vice president mike pence calling it a dark day. chuck schumer said this day would live in infamy. i want to ask you, how will history remember this day? >> well i think the senate majority leader said it right. this will be a day, as franklin roosevelt said about pearl harbor, that will live in infamy. we remember december 7th, 1941, for that tragic bombing that brought us into world war ii. we think about december 2nd, 1962, the day john f. kennedy was assassinated, september 11th, the day al qaeda bombed washington and new york, this is something we will always remember. the good news is that we came out of those tragedies closer as a nation, realizing that something was wrong and that we had to unite. and my hope is that we will become closer as a result of this day which will live in infamy. >> and we are hearing talks about invoking the 25th amendment, americans want something accountability for the

. >> earlier we spoke with historian mark updegrove about the events of the last 24 hours. i want to get right into it and talk about the tragic chain of events we saw today. we heard the vice president, mike pence, call it a dark day. then we saw senate minority leader chuck schumer saying this day will live in infamy. i want to ask you, how will history remember this day? >> well, i think the senate majority leader said it right. this will be a day as franklin roosevelt said about pearl harbor that will live in infamy. we remember december 7th, 1941 for that tragic bombing that brought us into world war ii. we think about november 22nd, 1963 the day that john f. kennedy was assassinated. september 11th the day that al qaeda bombed washington and new york. this is something that we will always remember. the good news is that we came out of those tragedies closer as a nation realizing that something was wrong, and we had to unite. >> and we are hearing that there are talks about invoking the 25th amendment. at least americans wanting some kind of accountability for the even

. >> earlier we spoke with historian mark updegrove to get some perspective on what we've seen in the. what stood out in your mind about president biden's inaugural speech? there was a notable omission, no mention of former president trump. >> no, which was notable. jimmy carter set a tradition back in 1977 by noting his predecessor and acknowledging all that his predecessor did, and that has been recognized by every incoming president since. of course, this was an unusual inauguration for so many reasons notably because of the absence of donald trump, so it was understandable that joe biden did not mention donald trump in his inauguration speech. >> and, mark, president biden asked for those who didn't vote for him to hear him out but we know the election and the transition like no other. was biden's message strong enough to speak to trump supporters? is unity even realistic? >> what will help president biden is if he makes good on his promise, to deliver not only for those americans who voted for him, but for those americans who didn't. joe biden has to make good on his agenda and e

let's bring in mark updegrove. reflect on where president trump fits in the pantheon of american presidents, so many record, the top one will be the second -- the only american president to be impeached a second time. face a second impeachment trial. >> without question, george and that will be part of it. generally takes a generation for us to evaluate presidents with any sense of dispassion. but i think in this case i go back to president trump's speech four years ago today and he talked about america first, that was going to be his policy. he also said memorably this american carnage will stop here and will stop now but as i think when we look back at the legacy of donald trump, we'll think of two thing, number one he lost the office due to his mishandling of the pandemic because he was unable to put the country first. it was always donald trump first. not america first. and the second part is the american carnage, while he said it would stop and would end with his presidency, we saw him incite that riot on janu

we have senior national correspondent terry moran and presidential historian mark updegrove join us tog to start, amy. >> you go ahead, robin. >> you go ahead. >> mark, i know this is so unprecedented. we've been talking about it all morning long. we have not seen anything like this since the civil war. >> that's right, amy. and even in the civil war the confederal soldiers did not penetrate the u.s. capitol. in fact, the capitol served as a hospital for union soldiers and housed union soldiers before they went out into the war so this is a symbol not only of our democracy but of keeping our union together in our most desperate hours, so to see ordinary american citizens take it by siege under the guise of being patriots is totally antithetical. you can't claim to love america and hate democracy. the two are one and the same. >> terry, how could history look back on donald trump because of this and how he handled himself after the election? >> you know, michael, whatever the accomplishments of the trump administration, they will fade over the years. that's the way, a tax bill, trade po

mark updegrove, thank you so much. want to go to the senate floor. lindsey graham, who has been perhaps the most stalwart supporter of the president, just won re-election in november, taking to the senate floor and writing himself away from the objections to the certification of the electoral college. >> tim and i have a good relationship, i love tim scott. 1876, south carolina, louisiana and florida sent two slate of electors. they had two governments, by the way, and we didn't know what to do. why did south carolina, florida and louisiana do it? to hold the country hostage to end reconstruction. it worked. the commission was 8-7. it didn't work. nobody accepted it. the way it ended is when hayes did a deal with these three states, you give me the electors, i'll kick the union army out. the rest is history. it led to jim crow. if you're looking for historical guidance, this is not the one to pick. if you're looking for a way to convince people there was no fraud, having a commission chosen by nancy pelosi, mitch mcconnell and john roberts is not goi

let's bring in mark updegrove.ow sobering this is. >> that's right, george. it is sobering. it is the most sobering responsibility a president has. the reason it's called the football is because it's passed -- it's handed off from one military officer to another, and of course, today it won't be handed off from one president to another because they're not going to be in the same place. there are two different system. so president trump's will run out at noon when constitutionally joe biden becomes president, and then there will be another system, another satchel containing those codes here in washington for joe biden to begin his tenure as our nation's commander in chief. >> and as martha said, he will not be given that biscuit with the actual codes until noon when he does become president of the united states. we have to take another quick break. we'll be right back. ♪ i am robert strickler. i've been involved in communications in the media for 45 years. i've been taking prevagen on a regular basis for at least ei