senators, senator joe manchin kyrsten sinema jon tester mark warner jeanne shaheen, catherine cortez masto, i've moderate democrats from the house were in that meeting representative josh gottheimer who for speaker pelosi to schedule a vote on the senate passed by parts infrastructure bill for next monday. also there was steve horshford congresswoman stephanie murphy, congressmen mike thomson, and congresswoman suzan delbene. who will be our first guest tonight. and she will tell us everything that was said in that room. and after that meeting president biden met with a group of more liberal senators and house members. senator bernie saners chairman of the budget committee, ron wyden chairman of the finance committee, cory booker, patty murray, brian schatz the house members attending the meeting of the liberal groups were congresswoman pramila jayapal, congressmen jim mcgovern the chair of the rules committee,

joining us democratic senator mark warner. nator warner, you have long been a main force behind bipartisan budget bill, you know, you had talks for years that you've co-hosted trying to get people together. this is considered a major block. i'll get to the immigration piece in a second, but what about the overall challenges just to getting some kind of major infrastructure bill combined with reconciliation going forward. >> well, andrea, let's remember that the infrastructure bill did get 69 votes in the senate. it's going to make -- it's the biggest infrastructure investment in 50 years, and i think it's going to pass in the house. there's always been a complexity to this. i called it the other day a rubik's cube, i think that it is that. you've got the infrastructure bill, you've got in the reconciliation bill, i think as somebody who was involved in bringing that top line number from 6 trillion down to 3.5 trillion, that's still a large number, but that is over ten years, and there is so much in there. the immigration piece

>> leigh ann caldwell live for us on the hill. >>> i want to bring in senator mark warner, who helpedtiate the bipartisan infrastructure deal and as a member of the budget committee helped draft the $3.5 trillion package. you're a busy man. thanks for being with us. >> thanks for having me. >> you were initially persuaded to get on board with this $3.5 trillion bill. could you now be convinced to go down to $1.5 trillion? >> i was very much the budget committee member that was reluctant to go to the full $6 trillion. i worked with senator sanders and the white house to bring it down to $3.5. one thing that drives this is not just what we spend the money on but how we raise the revenue. i see the path of raising $3.5 trillion, over ten years. the actual spending dollars are much lower than what we spent in the last year, for example, on covid. debate on how we raise the revenues has not been front and center. >> okay. >> i think that's where a lot of the action will be. friends of mine, like joe manchin, has said he wants to see how this is all paid for. i agree it needs to be paid for

go to senator mark warner on this and so much else. committee, banking, housing urban affairs. two of the biggest issues, afghanistan, what happened there and 3 1/2 trillion dollar budget that democrats are trying to push through by the end of the year. he will be a principal player in both. neil, always good to have you,. >> thank you, neil. neil: we talked briefly about this important testimony today from the secretary of state antony blinken and many have been arguing for his head, that the guy should resign. that there seems to be a push to fire somebody in the white house for its handling of this whole thing. how do you feel about that? >> well, neil, let's go ahead and give secretary blinken the chance to make his case. i know he will be in the house today and the senate tomorrow. i can tell you from where i sit as chair of the intelligence committee we are going back and reviewing all the intelligence leading up to the pullout. i have got real questions. for example, why was there not a break the glass plan, that could have been

senator mark warner said he wants it fully paid for as well. neil? what impressed me and you chasing down senator warner, he's taller than you and he was practically jogging and you kept up with him. if it was me, i'd say i'll get to you another day. great job, hillary. how did she do that? we have a good read of the markets. kenny, half paid for, fully paid for, what do you think? >> oh, i think it's going to be a long haul. i think it's going to be very difficult to pay for this $3.5 trillion package at all. i think they're going to have a difficult time trying to do that. and then some of these taxes that they're talking about trying to institute, i think are going to be very tough to swallow for certainly manchin, kyrsten sinema. i don't think this will happen as fast. but if it appears as if they're making head way and that these taxes potentially will start to go through, these exorbitant taxes, yes, it will affect the market. then the market will stabilize and find its sweet spot. but if it -- if we have the sense that they'll succeed in impos

joining me now is democratic senator mark warner, chairman of the senate intelligence committee. senator, what questions do you have, first of all, about this report from "the new york times" that that drone strike went terribly wrong and the withdraw in general? >> let's deal with the drone strike first. i want to get to the bottom of this as well. but i think your previous correspondent, mr. engel, laid out what appears to be the facts. we knew in those waning days, actually in some level of collaboration with sharing intel from the taliban, with the taliban, that there was going to be an isis strike and the tragedy of losing 13 americans and literally hundreds of afghans, there was a huge concern that there might be another attack. so that doesn't excuse if there was this kind of gross mistake made, but it clearly was a chaotic exit. and i can tell you the intelligence committee, we are already starting our review. we are going back and our committee will be meeting this week to get the facts of where was the break-the-glass plan, and was it fully red teamed out and was it eve

you heard mark warner having concerns about this from virginia.the face in many ways, some argue, and it's probably a lot of truth to it, he may be the most powerful person in washington on domestic policy. the president is the most powerful on foreign policy, obviously. but he has an army behind him. even some that won't -- don't have to be up front including in the house because joe manchin, the team are there. look, i think there is a good thing. i said all along when president biden was elected. he is a compromiser by nature. and he realizes there is not much he is going to get done on a significant level without some buy in from the party members. >> the key is that joe manchin votes with him, he may get a handful of republicans to vote with him as well. >> bret: yeah. it seems like, especially now, president biden may need a win and the question is whether progressives let him have that gentlemen, thank you, stand by. when we come back, tomorrow's headlines with the panel. ♪ ♪ is breaking ground on your biggest project yet. worth is giving t

but chris, let me say, i just spoke with senator mark warner of virginia, and i asked him if they're meet that september 15th deadline, even just having the legislative text, and he laughed at that. it seems like it's not very possible these deadlines are going to be met. >> that's a no. so jim, timeline aside, six days maybe be wishful thinking, but this is such a critical part of president biden's agenda. you know him, you know how the negotiations work. you also know the power wielded right now by manchin and sinema, so how do you see this playing out? what do you see as the administration's best strategy? and biden's role in it? >> yeah, that's a great question. so washington functions on two things. power and time. democrats have the power, now they're running out of time. so it is very easy for biden to say to both sides in these debates, look, we have got to move here. we have got to figure out our differences. and these are, you know, he's got a very small majority. the democrats in the house have the smallest majority since world war ii. we have a tied senate where kamala ha

i think it is appropriate, but virginia democratic senator mark warner says he expects many to support the president's call the overwhelming majority of. >> businesses local governments, health care systems universities. know we have to do this. giant says the department of labor will handle enforcement of the new requirements once they roll out in the coming weeks. >> in washington. i'm anna wiernicki. this week's lonoke county leaders could look to join the rest of the bay area by issuing a mask mandate. >> the board of supervisors will discuss that mask mandate during a meeting on tuesday. the move comes after the cities of benicia and vallejo recently issued their own mask mandates outside of county regulations right now. solano county, the lone bay area county here without a current mask mandate right now at kron 4 dot com. you can find the latest masking guidelines along with vaccine information. just use your mobile device to scan the qr code right there on your screen and you'll be directed to our website at kron 4 dot com. >> happening tomorrow. president joe biden will make h

i think it is appropriate, but virginia democratic senator mark warner says he expects many to support the president's call the overwhelming majority. >> of businesses local governments, health care systems universities. know we have to do this. giant says the department of labor will handle enforcement of the new requirements once they roll out in the coming weeks. >> in washington. i'm anna wiernicki. >> san jose firefighters and police unions are pushing back on the plan to mandate covid-19 vaccines for city employees by the end of the month. that's the goal. the president of san jose's firefighters local to 30 made that announcement in a statement that reads in part, while we strongly encourage all of our members to be vaccinated. we are against a vaccine mandate and we do not believe anyone should be terminated over the vaccine. last week. the city announced it will enforce a vaccine mandate by september 30th. it will require employees to show proof of vaccination instead of submitting weekly covid tests workers can request medical or religious exemption. the city's policy states,

when you read, when you write to mark warner, the intelligence committee, about the torture allegations you're saying, what do you get replies so far? i haven't gotten any so far. we've tried every staff or we know that might be sympathetic to our views. the north carolina commission, but we have not been able to get warner to even grant us the meaning. and let me correct one thing you said there, i don't think colin powell lied. i think that's a bit of a stretch. i think what happened was october 2002 national intelligence assessment accepted by the congress. both houses accepted by most of the government accepted by france. israel jordan, germany, you have other fellow intelligence agencies accepted. that is the truth and the reasonable you for you had previously said that the famous half a 1000000 children killed by us sanctions and british sanctions on iraq let alone the other economic sanctions had destroyed the saddam hussein's capabilities. you knew that why did you switch? i don't know that either. that's putting words in my mouth. again, i knew that the sanctions has been unsuc

i think it is appropriate, but virginia democratic senator mark warner says he expects many to supportsident's call the overwhelming majority of. >> businesses local governments, health care systems universities. know we have to do this. giant says the department of labor will handle enforcement of the new requirements once they roll out in the coming weeks. >> in washington. i'm anna wiernicki. >> a new leak last declassified 9.11 document is shutting some light on the support to of the saudi hijackers had leading up to the attacks. the document describes contacts. the hijackers had with saudi associates here in the united states. but it does not show evidence that the saudi government had a hand in the plot. the saudi government has denied any involvement in the attacks. the document is the first investigative record released since president joe biden ordered a declassification review of 9.11 materials last week. biden wants the justice department and other agencies to release what documents they can over the next 6 months. still ahead on the kron 4 morning news september is hunger a

announcing framework to pay for the massive $3 trillion bill, top dems like bernie sanders and mark warnerhat he is talking about. jillian: president biden is a rich man and wants the rich to pay their fair share. >> reporter: many americans would like to know about half 1 million in back taxes. raking in $13 million in speaking fees, but remember this? >> the investment will be fully pay for over the long-term by having the largest corporation in super wealthy begin to pay their fair share. >> reporter: the report does not name the president specifically the congressman jim banks points to the fact there's a loophole that would be closed under his new $3 trillion spending bill. todd: what i expect from an onslaught of vaccine mandates for kids. >> and oakland school district passing a vaccine mandate for students 12 and up. the fda has not fully approved covid vaccines for kids. amanda passed in los angeles earlier in the month saying the team will take a look at the vaccine requirement in la with an adjustment on local context. the teachers union backed the plan. carley: a live look at t

mark warner, senator of virginia saying he would vote gagainst te 3.5 if money isn't added for housing assistance. every senator, and member of congress has to be what they believe to be legitimate concerns. there's also a question that could make this more intense. will the senate parliamentarian allow the democrats to put immigration reform in this bill. it is complicated enough to begin with, you add that explosive issue, and wow. >> exactly. the democrats presented their side of the argument this past friday, now we're waiting to hear what the senate parliamentarian, elizabeth mcdonough will say. i talked to her predecessor, and he said this issue has not been litigated before, this question of whether immigration can be inside a reconciliation bill and so although hopes are high for advocacy groups, it seems the president is not there when it comes to including this, and that will be a really large hit when we talk about members who have eyes on certain targets of spending not seeing immigration get in there. >> there's so many different pieces of this, and this is literally crunc

mark warner democratic senator from west virginia did a interview with hillary vaughn from fox business a few minutes ago, how they get the pay-fors will be very complex that will hinge on a lot of members how they vote for this on the democratic side of the aisle. remember this gets very complex as to has to be paid for over a 10-year window. when you use the budget reconciliation process those are the rules. what we find here on capitol hill you can never quite project that far out as to what is paid for. inevitably it is almost never paid for frankly. neil: yeah. exactly. all right, chad, thank you very, very much now focusing on the other story, maybe many in the administration would sooner you not focus on for the time-being in favor of more domestic initiatives, what is going on in afghanistan. a plane did get out today at a couple of airports with better than 200 having adequate papers to get out of country. what does that mean? greg palkot is following all of this in london. greg. reporter: neil, there is good news and bad news for folks trying to get out of afghanistan and away

senator mark warner of virginia threatened last night to vote against all of this if it didn't have more money for affordable housing, reminding us of how much work immigrants have yet to do. guy: i will pick it up. some horse trading still ahead. thank you very much, indeed get bloomberg's joe mathieu on what is happening in d.c. and tunis to his show "sound on" on bloomberg radio. let's turn our attention to what is happening in china. china's ever grand group facing mounting protests by homebuyers, retail investors, even its own employees as it raises the stakes for the authorities in beijing, as they try to figure out how to prevent the property giant's debt crisis. joining us is bloomberg's tom mackenzie. how do they fix this problem? tom: you point to the heart of the matter, which is social stability. for the communist party, they want to make sure that does not spiral out of control. it is not unheard of to see protests in china. it is rare. you are seeing it in north and the south, so the question is do they ride to the rescue. it has gone from the boardrooms to the streets now,

kyrsten sinema opposes the price tag and mark warner saidn't there not enough funding for housing assistance> the u.s. capitol police are recommending disciplinary action be taken against officers in six cases related to the january 6th riot. the violences include conduct on unbecoming of an officer, failure to comply, improper remarks, improper dissemination of information. a seventh investigation is still penlding while no wrong doing was found in 20 other cases. authorities said they didn't find sufficient evidence that any of the officers committed a crime. members of congress are expected to get a security briefing with law enforcement today about an upcoming rally at the u.s. capitol. authorities are bracing for potential clashes and unrest on saturday as far right groups are said to protest in support of those charged in the january 6th attack on the capitol. claiming they're political prisoners. >>> and the document is shedding more light on the fbi's investigation into support given to the 9/11 attackers and their ties to saudi nationals living in the u.s. at the time. cnn's alex ma

but we have to throw in senator mark warner of virginia. now he said under reverse he doesn't support the bill because it doesn't do enough for housing assistance. really illuminating the president biden has to walk in the two tent poles of the senate democrats. one saying it does too much. one saying it doesn't do enough. so when you talk to white house officials, over the last two weeks, they have been talking about the bill with real urgency saying they need to get it done. we'll see what the president biden uses over the next week and a half to try to get more democrats on his side, whether he brings it to the white house, aboard air force 1, you name it, trying to get it done. >> trying to pull out the stops. thank you for that. >>> while democrats struggle how to move forward, house democrats are still laying out specifics on how to fund that $3.5 trillion budget plan by hiking taxes on the rich and corporations. a draft proposal obtained by cnn calls for a top individual tax rate of 39.6%, for americans earning $400,000 or more a yea

so senator mark warner of virginia who is part of the moderate group said there was a robust discussionround that top line number. whether or not that number should come down a bit. now, on the progressive side, they've been insistent that monday is much too early to vote for that bipartisan infrastructure bill because if the house were to pass it, the president could ultimately sign it into law, and their concerned that would mean the reconciliation package won't be as strong of a focus of the moderate members of both the house and senate, and for some reason the entire situation could blow up. now, the house speaker nancy pelosi, after her meeting with president biden, insisted that they were on the right track. >> i will not be talking about that right now. we are on schedule. that's all i will say. >> thank you, ma'am. >> and we're calm, and everybody's good, and our work is almost done. so we're in good shape. >> reporter: important to point out there pelosi is saying they are on schedule which means she still plans to bring that bipartisan bill up for a vote on monday. now, pelosi

senator mark warner was with democrats who negotiated with republicans. white house today, too, and he said the ip fra structure bill should stand alone. >> some kind of inside d.c. politics, you voted down the president's top priorities >> that showed no signs of backing down most of their members in the house vowed to oppose the bill unless democrats biggest spending package based those chambers as well today senate democrats backed them up. they were among the 11 senators who made it clear they were promised three pieces of legislation. they said, quote, abandoning the $3.5 trillion build back better act would be in violation of that agreement democrats say they are still committe to passing all of president biden's agenda after hours of meeting it's not all clear how they will get there. >> because it's september in washington, there's another problem. congress facing the risk of having a country default on its debt and that could be catastrophic that could be >> reporter: you're right, shep. both our economic and national security are at risk if cong

i think it is appropriate, but virginia democratic senator mark warner says he expects many to support the president's call the overwhelming majority of. >> businesses local governments, health care systems universities. know we have to do this. giant says the department of labor will handle enforcement of the new requirements once they roll out in the coming weeks. >> in washington. i'm anna wiernicki. this week the sullivan county solano county leaders could look to join the rest of the bay area by issuing a mask mandate. >> the board of supervisors are set to discuss that during a meeting this coming tuesday morning. the move comes after the cities of ship and vallejo issued their own mask mandates right now. solano county, the loan, the bay area county currently without a mask mandate right now. the kron 4 dot com. you can find the latest mask guidelines in vaccine. details. use your mobile device to scan the qr code on your screen and you'll be directed to our website. >> still to come tonight here on kron. 4 news at 9. we will talk live with chp about the steps that they are tryi

mark warner of virginia compared this tass to being a rubix cube on steroids when i spoke to him earlierthis moment as they try to do this massive mega bill just in the coming weeks. >> good to see you, thank you, my friend. joining us is chris van hollen who sits on the budget committee. thank you for your time. i know the house has essentially put together its version of the reconciliation bill. >> ayman, great to be with you. you was pleased to see the house move forward. look, there is some differences between the house and senate. but they're not large and they're narrowing. the senate is moving ahead. we're going to obviously be receiving the house bill. then we'll work to iron out the differences between the two going forward. as president said, it's important for the economy and workers that we get this done. >> i want to talk about your colleagues for a moment. you get asked a lot about those. joe mansion said they would not support a bull that costs $3.5 trillion. yesterday the two met with president biden. there is no room for error in the senate. what you are doing to try to

i think it is appropriate, but virginia democratic senator mark warner says he expects many to supportnt's call the overwhelming majority of. >> businesses local governments, health care systems universities. know we have to do this. giant says the department of labor will handle enforcement of the new requirements once they roll out in the coming weeks. >> in washington. i'm anna wiernicki. >> time now 6.39 and the biden administration also has a new initiative to get more people tested for covid white house officials say in order to provide better access to testing top retailers like walmart and amazon are going to have to sell rapid tess and about a 35% discount for the next 3 months at home tests include nasal, swabs and saliva tests. but despite them being available at major retailers. the supply is limited. one family owned pharmacy owner says that the demand is due to more people wanting to leave their homes again. >> want to go back. at the same time, we don't want to get exposed by going to a hospital a clinic setting where there's a chance that there are like most people on t

that's how virginia senator mark warner is describing that lies ahead for democrats in congress this week. his democratic colleagues in the house have just seven days to pass the infrastructure bill. they have just ten days left to reach a deal on the $3.5 trillion spending plan. there's also the important matter of funding the government by the end of the month. they know, by the way, they have to raise the debt ceiling by then or face from janet yellen is calling, quote, widespread economic catastrophe. allie is following all of this. the senate parliamentarian just dealt a major blow to the bill. >> reporter: democrats say they're going to try again. top democrats involved in this immigration effort released a statement right after we heard from the senate parliamentarian. i want to read a piece of it. they say they're working on alternative proposals and will be holding additional meetings with the senate parliamentarian in coming days. it's still likely to be a hard sell. if you read through the reasoning behind the decision, you'll see it becomes at least it seems, less a quest

as senator mark warner puts it democrats says a, quote, rubik's cube on steroids. parliamentarian, the person who decides what should be allowed in each one of these bills has ruled that democrats cannot include a path to citizenship for an estimated 8 million immigrants in that $3.5 trillion spending bill. can you explain why and how big of a deal is this set back? >> reporter: it's a significant setback but it's not the end of the road for democrats. the democrats wanted to allow a path to permanent residency, green cards for four categories of people, dreamers, pss holders, essential workers and some others including farmworkers. the parliamentarian said the budget process to evade a filibuster and pass a bill without any republican support cannot be used to advance this immigration policy measure. she said that is a tremendous policy change that dwarfs the budgetary impact and as a result cannot be included. democrats were somewhat prepared for this, they say they have come up with alternative proposals to include immigration provisions in this. they can do oth

senator mark warner just called this situation a rubics cube onner the roid. that's a colorful metaphor. where do democrats start now that they're all back? >> garrett, it's extremely complicated. and every day that passes it just gets more and more difficult for democrats, because the news keeps getting worse instead of better. the decision by the karlmenttarian last -- parliamentarian last night was another blow. the moderates and the progressives are staring at each other and daring the other side to blink first. those are the types of situations that we usually see between democrats and republicans, but this is happening within the party and it comes down to two pieces of legislation that bipartisan bill which is scheduled as you mentioned to be voted on next week. where the moderates are demanding a vote on that. they are saying that this -- the speaker and leadership are not yet even negotiating with them on the reconciliation bill. they are saying that those two bills should be delinked and they would not be sad if, in fact, the bipartisan bill moves an

of representative john sarbanes and was later chief counsel to our friend and colleague, senator mark warner. you don't have to take it from me that john knows his way around the congress. all of those members trusted john as a right hand man. second issue, i be can't find any controversy with respect to his nomination. he cleared the senate finance committee on a 28-0 vote. let me repeat that. 28-0 vote. in fact the finance committee reported out several nominees this congress without any republican opposition. none at all. normally that would be enough to pave the way for prompt and full senate consideration, but i think we all understand that these are not normal times here in the united states senate. it used to be the case at the end of july, two sides would come together, look to pass a package of noncontroversial nominees by consent, by unanimous consent. my finance committee team that would be the case this year. unfortunately that did not take place. senate republicans were just in no mood to clear even the most noncontroversial nominees. this is an extraordinary level of obstructio

out and a bunch of us that lean more progressive walking in, one of those is a friend of mine, mark warneresidents from eisenhower and the highways, the people who built canals and railroads, the people who pointed to the moon, the whole mainframe industry and computer was done because of massive government investments. there is a moment here in america that will not come back possibly for a generation where we have to be bold again and i think the president understands that, i think moderates in our party mostly get that and we're going to have to find a way to press forward because the most valuable natural resource on the planet now in a global knowledge-based economy is the genius of children and to being the only nation that doesn't have a paid family leave, afghanistan and the congo have paid family leave. to not have affordable child care. there is a lot of issues that we have to seize right now if we are going to stay as a nation leaders on everything from green technology and infrastructure all the way to manifesting in our country this fertile soil, the geniuses that are going to

a free to pay for the 3.5 massive trillion dollars spending plan democrats like bee sanders and mark warnerdicating yet another giant murder hornet nest. state officials found a tree that contained the nest and split it open. there were 10 combs inside the tree. all the hornets were workers which means no new nest would be created from it officials say the queen that started the nest had interesting coloring. the insects are native to asia and pose a threat to honeybees and native hornet species. those are your headlines, and an update on said murder hornet population in america. brian: right. carley, i'm getting word now you will have to cover the murder hornet story so you can get on that right away. carley: i have always wanted to bear a bee suit. brian: be deceptive to be part of the story. i'm going to go out because i'm very curious with the weather. adam klotz, you have the fox weather forecast. adam: good morning, brian. always beautiful and pleasant in new york city i don't know if you heard that jack hammering behind me. hoping hopefully you are waking up to the sound of birds and

monopoly >> take a look at the lineup for later on today some big names elon musk, jason of warner media, markenioff of salesforce the themes of code is mobility, regulation, streaming, cloud, crypto, gaming but it's a listen as to how live events happen, corporate conferences happen and hopefully we can get lessons on that as we try to find our way around this pandemic in corporate life the supply chain issues, whether it's china or europe are going to be key and lisa su definitely hit it last night. >> you know lisa as well or better than anybody. talked to her so many times. anything that you heard there that was new or updated from the last time you spoke to her >> yes, we're in this lose-lose situation. there's an outlet called news stream, and they put out a piece -- >> news stream research, yeah. >> but you heard what she said there's factories coming on. they're saying, time to downgrade. too many factories coming on you can't win here you want to buy -- news street says watch out asm -- >> you've pointed us to mu when they report as well. >> i got a note today from an outfit that says

provisions of rule 1, paragraph 3, of the standing rules of the senate, i hereby appoint the honorable mark r. warner, a senator from the commonwealth of virginia, to perform the duties of the chair. signed: patrick j. leahy, president pro tempore. the presiding officer: under the previous order, the senate stands adjourned until 3:00 p.m. on monday, until 3:00 p.m. on monday, >> senators are scaled return for legislative work on monday, september 20 when they will consider judicial nominations. also next week election reform and voting rights. watch the senate live here on c-span2. now we will take you back to a house for affairs committee hearing with testimony from secretary of state antony blinken. >> watching this today, i the message for you. your service was not in vain. it is because of your heroism that we have not witnessed a large scale attack by the terrorists since 9/11, in the last 20 years. and for that i say to all of you, thank you. so we are here to better understand how this administration got it so wrong, and i hope you will directly answer our questions, mr. secretary, succinctly

mark zuckerberg. also got money from uber, walgreen's, nbc universal, anheuser-busch, air b and b, warner brothers. anthem blue cross. steve: voters sided with newsom on coronavirus. even though coronavirus was the reason they got 1.5 million signatures to have a recall, people actually sided with him on that. 45% in the state said newsom is about right on coronavirus, about a third said too strict. and 18 percent said not strict enough. and what's interesting and we're talking about masks on kids in school all the time, 70% of the people nbc polled in their exit polling, 70% say they are okay with their kids going to school in california wearing a mask. brian: yeah, that cutting edge idea of stopping people from eating outdoors in california and keeping businesses shut down, that's why people just said listen, i'm outnumbered here. i'm going to leave. as beautiful as the state is, as diverse as it is, i'm going to go elsewhere. joe concha weighed in on the big picture what this means because knowing going in that they were saying he is a trump clone. you don't want donald trump. you don't want any