mark whitaker, welcome.you were a young pup and started at "newsweek," your editor said maybe if you worked really hard one day you could be a senior editor at the magazine. what but say? >> i said, well, half joking, what about the top editor? and this was in 1979. i was just graduating from college. i had done a couple of internships at "newsweek." he said to me, well, "newsweek" isn't ready for a black editor. maybe someday but not now. >> how did that make you feel? >> well, i thought it was actually realistic. i was full of beans a little bit, had just graduated from harvard, done well in internships. he was right at the time. and eventually i became the editor of "newsweek," but it took 20 years. >> when it happened, before i was associated with the musician when its was owned by the "washington post" company, every time you were mentioned in the article, at least in the begin, it was first african-american editor of a major news magazine. were you proud of that, or did it also bother you on some level