shortly ago i spoke with markel hutchins, i asked him in light of all that we have seen in the past week or so, what are we witnessing here. listen to this. >> i think we're seeing something unprecedented in america today. what don suggested earlier that we have not seen this type of heavy handed military style policing is very true, and is troubling, particularly for those of us who remember the days of the segregated south when people like martin luther king junior and so many others marched under these same kinds of conditions, so that we would not have to 50 years later fight along racial and those kinds of lines, but i think one thing is very important for us to make a distinction. we keep grouping people together as if everybody, these folks are all protesters. there's a difference in a protester and provok tour. many that are causing these disruptions are doing so not to bring justice but to create further dissension and tension and that's most unfortunate. >> what is it going to take to bring the kind of change these residents want? you have the missouri governor, jay nixon, crit

we will bring back reverend markel hutchins.is with me at cnn center, a civil and human rights activist. you watched ron johnson, as don lemon said, sounding frustrated. sunday morning, he was attending church services, he got teared up, he said i am you, you are me, let's do this together tonight, sounding frustrated because of provocateurs. what stood out to you? >> there was distinct difference between his tone and demeanor at the news conference and the rally attended earlier today with some of my colleagues in the civil rights community. as i listen to him, i realize the spirit of outrage, the spirit of we want to do something, we want justice, that spirit is right, but the structure is wrong. what made the civil rights protest of the 1950s and '60s so successful is the protesters were trained. we are living in an era now, quite frankly, where there is a kind of a sense of a microwaveable movement in the civil and human rights community. if the protesters were trained as they should be, they would become law enforcement's g

joining me to talk about all of this is civil and human rights activist, the reverend markell hutchinsg with us, sir, we appreciate it. >> great to be with you. >> how does the community here rebuilt build trust? what do they need? some people have been saying, we heard from lieutenant russell honor ray saying we need someone to come in from the government, outside body to be there to help quell attention the tensions. >> i think local leadership is critically important in these situations. i agree with the general in some sense that local leaders are often times restricted by the relationship that they have within those communities. i don't think under any circumstances, the local district attorney and the local police department can effectively investigate what happened to michael brown. so i think it's a combination of local leadership and those from the outside, particularly from governmental entities, working with community leaders and police to figure out how to move forward in this situation. >> what needs to be done most, from what you've been seeing on the ground unfold the la

the reverend markel hutchins, thanks for joining us this morning.reciate it. >> great to be with you. >> thanks. >>> coming up, he thought a friend was arranging his third marriage, but instead he was arranging his death. the inside story of how a double agent led the cia to american-born terrorist anwar al awlaki. >>> and ever had the craving for chocolate or some other type of food? of course you have. turns out your brain is trying to tell you something. we're decoding your cravings, and we're going to actually tell you what they mean. stay tuned. [ female announcer ] it's simple physics... a body at rest tends to stay at rest... while a body in motion tends to stay in motion. staying active can actually ease arthritis symptoms. but if you have arthritis, staying active can be difficult. prescription celebrex can help relieve arthritis pain so your body can stay in motion. because just one 200mg celebrex a day can provide 24 hour relief for many with arthritis pain and inflammation. plus, in clinical studies, celebrex is proven to improve daily p