counselors the job you just you know with the positions that if you look at time would call i'm going to markland you have a lot of 1st year but but in the 1st years it was not model not every time joy just to watch them to experience that kind of leadership the question is even if these 2 candidates are these 2 possibly to us are going to be the actual candidates because i mean will be seen now they've always been leading the party leaders have been leading these campaigns but obviously never with the intention of one of them becoming a lead candidate for an actual job because it's 2 people and there can't compel him to get now the national someone is that robot hollaback the charismatic male leader but the comment and there's already been talks about well sudden maybe the woman on the in a babel becoming the candidate i think it's quite interesting the more intelligent and. i mean i don't know which of the conversation was entirely more intelligent quantifies unwise to choose for example academically qualified she studied international law he has studied. liberal arts and just to talk about the

weakness of the traditional governing parties in this country the conservatives and i'm going to markland the social democrats they've been ruling they've been forming the government as a coalition for this for this and previous governments and in that time they seem to have lost a lot of support most recently both parties have been having quite intense internal debates and internal weaknesses new leaders are emerging on both sides are going to merkel has said that she's stepping down as chancellor at the end of this governing period so there's a lot of uncertainty about what's going to happen in these 2 governing parties and i think that is also contributing to the rise of the greens who are seen as more reliable and more steady on on their issues when their policies and this fracturing leading to the rise of the if the on the right as well one reason for the green strength appears to be as you mentioned the other party's weaknesses the opinion poll asks this party is not paying enough attention to the issues people really care about here are the results for the governing parties 77 perc