marlena dietrich and ava gardner. a couple books right there. ava called him papa and he called her daughter. >> guest: there was a little stable he had, dietrich, and in love with him and flirted with them, but called him daughter. he declared love for them but he kept the barrier up as much as they did. >> host: but he married the journalist. three journalist lives. >> he was in michigan hunting and fishing with his dad. there were early signs his dad had problems. >> depression coursed through the family. his father had a couple bad assessments and in 1928 a photo of ed hemingway in a suit looking at ernest with the most admiring much befuddled look, swimming in a suit. he killed himself two months after that. it is something most of us can't imagine because it was a psychotic depression. the example, ernest at the end of his life was on his way to the mayo clinic in a little plane and stopped to fuel and he had to walk into the propeller, psychotic, suicidal, a psychotic disaster or news that it was really beyond -- very hard to get that. >>