at that time, jake horowitz and marlene beckman came out to hawaii to check it out. mark has been responsible for much of the good press that has come around this. he knows more people in the press -- the "wall street journal" did the first national story on it. it's because he knew a reporter. marlene beckman came out and i said, you're here to just see we're not making the figures up in the office. she said, yeah, we are. >> i met him at a conference at yale a few years ago. was intrigued by his work, read it. and became persuaded because it sounded to me like it was an eminently sensible way to deal with these problems. next question? john? >> john malcolm here at heritage. two quick questions. one, you talked about the expedited process. do people who fail a drug test, or alcohol test, have to appear in your court before they're revoked, or does it happen the moment the test comes back? and my second question, which is, did you face any resistance when you implemented these programs from prosecutors, probation officers or the defense bar? >> well, first, it's a $

at that time, jake horowitz and marlene beckman came out to hawaii to check it out. mark has been responsible for much of the good press that has come around this. he knows more people in the press -- the "wall street journal" did the first national story on it. it's because he knew a reporter. marlene beckman came out and i said, you're here to just see we're not making the figures up in the office. she said, yeah, we are. >> i met him at a conference at yale a few years ago. was intrigued by his work, read it. and became persuaded because it sounded to me like it was an eminently sensible way to deal with these problems. next question? john? >> john malcolm here at heritage. two quick questions. one, you talked about the expedited process. do people who fail a drug test, or alcohol test, have to appear in your court before they're revoked, or does it happen the moment the test comes back? and my second question, which is, did you face any resistance when you implemented these programs from prosecutors, probation officers or the defense bar? >> well, first, it's a $

at that time, jake horowitz and marlene beckman came out to hawaii to check it out. mark has been responsible for much of the good press that has come around this. he knows more people in the press -- the "wall street journal" did the first national story on it. it's because he knew a reporter. marlene beckman came out and i said, you're here to just see we're not making the figures up in the office. she said, that's about it. so. so good for mark. >> let me second the kidos mentioned. i met him at a conference at yale a few years ago. was intrigued by his work. read it. and became persuaded because it sounded to me like it was an eminently sensible way to deal with these problems. next question? john? >> john malcolm here at heritage. two quick questions. one, you talked about the expedited process. do people who fail a drug test, or alcohol test, have to appear in your court before they're revoked, or does it happen the moment the test comes back? and my second question, which is, did you face any resistance when you implemented these programs from prosecutors, pro