we're in the middle of a wonderful conversation with marnie and jim about how they discovered their jewishness. womtalking about the break, jim, and marnie was sharing how her own adulthood at a certain point when show discovered her influence and a sense of back and forth. what was it for you? >> somewhat similarly. i came out when i was 20 as a gay man. my identity kind of arranged or rearrange itself and this felt similar when my mother revealed this identity. it was like oh, okay. so, i completely changed and was completely the same. and i took myself to synagogue thinking oh, well, may be now, i will find the services more meaningful and man now i will opinion the songs that i won't feel like an interloner. of course -- interloper. none of that changed. i had not grown up as a jew. i sort of like know it, i use the analogy of being transgender, a transgender person doesn't have the childhood of the gender they're now living. and so, i feel like i am not a pretend. >> i mean my mother's family was jewish. and i have done all of the lacks that beginning nurturing parents jewishness. >> inte