but according mother daughter according to the mother daughter duo marquita oliver, we duo andy and marquita they now to us they join us now to tell us more. morning to you both. more. good morning to you both. good morning . great to see you. good morning. great to see you. i must . good morning. great to see you. i must. isabel seems to be very much the perfectionist , whereas much the perfectionist, whereas i'm kind of open baileys and get on the air fryers or whatever. i just i just think if you if that kind of picture perfect thing is an easy thing , you know, you an easy thing, you know, you have at it . for an easy thing, you know, you have at it. for most of us, that's not what life is like. and i think the pressure to achieve that picture perfect moment is so debilitating for people that we've discovered know there's a whole bunch of research done by camtasia who we work with that says people are getting depressed about it. people are getting stressed . people are getting stressed. it's making them unhappy. if it makes you unhappy , think, even makes you unhappy, think, even if it m