we're seeing it coming out of the marsalis. these are sources that quite honestly 10 years ago, 5 years ago we really hadn't factored into the mix and they are extremely important as we look to domestic production and how we bring natural gas up and get it into the distribution system. that's huge. i believe you're going to need all that we can produce domestically here as well as what we can deliver from alaska. we've got 35 trillion cubic feet of known reserves up north and unlimited quantities beyond that. i believe we're going to need all of them, particularly, if we move to a situation where you've got a cap and trade regime in place. and we're looking to get additional quantities of natural gas. if you do a lot of what our friend t. boone pickens wants to do. it's to have available supplies of natural gas. and quite honestly i don't want those available supplies of natural gas to be imported lng. i don't want to knowingly take this country into the same situation with natural gas that we are currently with oil. we're clos