joining us also from the left is congressman marsha blackburn from tennessee.evy is contributing editor of "rolling st ining stone" and huffington post media group. darlene, we are so grateful for your time because we know this must be a horrific, horrific time for people who really knew whitney houston and loved her. our condolences go out to you. what are they telling the family at this point? >> i was so close to sissy because of our relationship. i met when she was 8 years old. so i have fond memories of her as a child. i've been trying to reach out to cissy, but she's -- which i understand. i have not been able to get in touch with her yet. i'm trying. i know where she is but i don't want to go over there unannounced. i want her to call me and reach out. and we're just waiting, you know. memories of her as a little girl are just unbelievable because i lived with cissy for a couple of years when we were all working for deion. she said, let's just make you a cousin. so i became her cousin and because i actually -- nippy let me have her bed when i lived -- st

. >> to have a conversation about both sides of this argument, republican congressman marsha blackburnoins us from tennessee and lieu ice ming is the deputy legal director for the aclu. congresswoman, let's begin with you. when you hear from mitt romney saying this is about the right to worship god, this is about religious freedom, how is this about religious freedom and a right to worship? >> well, it is about religious freedom because what has happened with the obamacare bill, soledad, is specifically this. that bill is about government force. government forcing their way into what you believe, what you're going to -- what you're going to be able to provide. and that is not what the american people want. what happened to the president saying, if you like what you have, you can keep it. well, we know that that didn't happen. >> let me stop you there. >> that didn't happen. >> let me stop you there for a second. >> sure. >> i want to bring you back to the original question which, is how is that about the right to worship god and how is that about religious freedom, because what it's sa