>> i woke up to the screamms of my mom and when it was all said and done, marshall brent williams who was convicted of a 11 and half yearr sentence of second-degree murder got out and met my mom and got into a relationship and murdered her and killed my 12 year old brother and went back and shot her again and then put the gun to my head and i left there with no hope or dignity and my leader and my guide was bleeding to death. >> it is a heart breaking story and our heart goes out to you. >> thank you very much. >> what did you push forward in the meeting with the vice-president? >> for us, what is listening to what is happening in the table and the vice-president kept an open mind of what we need to do about this . the vice-president was clear in that meeting by saying, the answers are not here, all of the answers are not here and there needs to be a conversation with the american public on what, what needs to happen and neepeds to be addressed and the previous caller concluded what the white house has done and to conclude that the at this point is ahead of the process. we need to get