who was their advisor up in dean new hampshire and marshall ganz, the organizing director for the farmers in california and that house party model was an evolution, not party. marshall would yell at us if we said house party. it's a house meeting. and that was an evolution from and a little bit of rejection of the some of the restriction of the olinski model. so it's amazing what they did in '08 in south carolina and all over the country and that incubated in south carolina took root as the standard, you know, obama organizing model. so this whole generation of organizers learned to work with volunteers and it did start with one-on-one and, but then they would ask them to lead a neighborhood people and then that person would be the leader of the team and they'd call it the snowflake model. so, what we-- i think when we looked at what we were doing, okay, that was gralt. in the beginning of the campaign we had 46 states and before we, you know, you're exactly right about how becky saved the whole operation. it would have been a mess if she hadn't come, but there was like a month an