a beach from a marsh. offer of we told them from day one you won't clean it up from a marsh. they said it will never get it. well, it is there. please don't take filetovers of plaquemines parish. it is an insult to the people. you have to pull intt that marsh and see there is absolutely no life. everything is dead. i will make you a prediction. we will lose mmre coastline from this disaster in louisiana than we lost from katrina, rita, gustav and ike kind. we have lost 20 mills. it is dead and as soon as the cane falls into the water, it will wash away. how can we sit here and say we are doing everything possible? it is beside me. and i don't know who to blame any more. it took the president coming down to get the boom project -- the berman project approved. i don't know if it is going to take him coming down to get the sucks equipment. we put a vacuum truck that vacuums out port apotties on a barge and took it out there and shows it works. you have the parish governments running the whole show. the bp contractors are doing pbsolutely nothing but destroying our marsh. yoo cou

louisiana's marsh isn't doing well now.we are losing 25 square miles every year of louisiana coastal wetlands, there part because of oil & gas activity. this is likely going to speed that up. >> ifill: professor portier when thad allen, admiral allen said today that this is like a massive collection of smaller spills instead of a single big spill, does that change what you do to help clean it up? >> it does because normally we have operated from a position of having a few night amount of oil so-- finite amount of oil so we know what we are dealing with. here we have repeated oiling events. so the ability to clean an area particularly on our coastal marshs in south louisiana, knowing that additional oiling will probably occur as we go through the summer, late fall and even early winter months, the strategy has to be very flexible in order to take advantage of the climate, take advantage of areas that are not oil, protect them once we clean them. and then have a very aggressive strategy of going after oil, areas that are repe

we switch over to a live view of 95 from the white marsh. and we see the normal delays. >> summer starts in about a half hour. in the solstice parties? let them begin. >> you already had your party. >> that is what we do in the weather department. it is going to be warm but less humid the yesterday. 90 will be our forecasted high. the humidity goes up to more and wednesday. scattered thunderstorms are possible. wednesday will be the hottest day. you can tune into am 1090 and catch the weather and traffic on the five all day long. >> i was talking about 8 runner. >> you do not know what you're talking about. >> 0, yes. >> thanks for joining us for 11 news today. >> we will be back with a live update at 7:25.

they said it would never get to the marshes. well, it is there. i ask you, please don't make flyovers of plaquemines parish. you have to go down there in touch it.+ there is absolutely no life. everything is dead. i will make a prediction. we will lose more coastline from this disaster in louisiana then we lost from katrina, rita, gustav and ike combined. as soon as the grass and cane poles into the water, the land i consider to three weeks later and say we are doinn everytting possible -- i can sit here three weeks later. i do not know who to blame anymore. it took the president coming down to get the boom project -- the berm project approved. i don't know if it will take him comeedown to get the suction equipment. we put vacuums on a barge and took it out there in showed that it sucks up the oil. there is other equipment out there. you have the parish president's running the whole show. bp could fire up their contractors because they are doing nnthing but destroy our marsh. this is an emergency. to work 20 minutes and take 10 minutes of, would w

we are getting erosion of a lot of the wetlands and marshes.hey are putting booms out in the enterior marsh trying to protect the estuaries where shrimp and fish lay their examples. and into terror are bonn -- i mean into st. bernard and plaquemines parish on the east side they are concerned with the wetland. the lake up here is open to fishing. lake katherine is open to fishing but you have protection. that oil is collecting on chandelier island. if it keeps going like that it will get in the north end and get into the lakes from the back side. you don't know where the tide is going to take this stuff. >> would you point out new orleans as reference? >> it is on the north end of all of it. >> thank you. >> you are welcome. >> she is the on-seen coordinator. the administrator is on the way and should be here in 10 minutes and admiral allen. >> we are heading up here. >> have you seen john glover around? >> no. his son is here. >> michael? >> mr. glover is actually here. >> lead the way, guys. >> how are you doing? >> making it. staying out of t

and that's whether it's on rocks on the beach, in the mangroves or in the marsh. so we're going to be interested to see if some of the areas that were previously oild get cleaned through the higher wave energy that's now in the bay. so this storm could have both negative impacts and positive impacts , and we'll have to wait and see . certainly, it is driving the oil ashore in greater quantities than wave seep in the last few weeks. >> brown: let me bring mr. franklin back. alex is said to be the earliest hurricane to hit the u.s. mainland since 1995, i understand. does that help us think about this coming season, what might be coming? >> well, it probably won't go down as a strike on the u.s. mainland, but it is unusual to get a tropical cyclone in june formed from a tropical wave, which is how alex formed. normally that mechanism doesn't get going until we get into late july and august. i think it is an indicator that we're seeing conditions conducive for development over a lot of tropical atlantic. we were expecting a busy season before the season started. we're

it cannot be cleaned up off of the marsh. the marsh -- it has been over two weeks. had 40 crews out there to clean it up and it is still not clean debt. just like we have said from the beginning, it is impossible to clean this stuff up from the marsh. it is destroying the marsh. i will predict that if we do not form this barrier island, we will see more land lost from this oil and then katrina and ike combined. we have already lost 3,000 acres. the coast guard said 24 acres and bp said 30. they got their numbers together and they huddled. we would not physically and measured it. it is 3,000 acres of land lost already. what is it going to take for somebody to quit playing around? >> for those under watching on c-span, you have been al so many times into the louisiana wetlands with the governor and others. for those that have never been to louisiana wetlands or one of our estuaries, explain what it would normally be like this time of year and what you have seen, heard, and felt as you have gone through. >> usually, thousands of people out there fishing. it also feeds

you have very sensitive marsh land areas. contrary to what the general public might think, the best way to clean up the march is not to just go in there and start stripping it ut and taking the oil out. marshes are very sensitivee environments and need to be carrfully handled. the biggest challenge is getting people to understand that doing very little, flushing the oil out gently, taking care of the marshes, don't of trampling on the vegetation. doing a little bit of effective work is much better than doing a lot of ineffective and damaging pork. if you contrast that to a sandy beach, you can clean a sandy beach very quickly. the idea of going in in getting a quick -- getting people to understand that just cleaning up oil is not just about going in scooping it up. there is a loo of expert work that needs to go into working out how to do it. >> there are a lot offfolks looking at a lot of data. they are looking at health risks to responders. in ann situation where you have+ a response and a lot of people moving fast, there is

once a tropical storm comes and washes that oil up into the marshes, we are going to lose miles of marsh that we will have protection. we will lose the estuaries of all of the seafood. if you cannot even begin to think about the problems we have. >> todd? >> we are just given to have to take it day by day. i cannot wait until august. >> dedge, baby, dredge. we have to protect the esterase and wildlife but also protect us as well from the next hurricane. it is imperative we dredge those barrier islands. the cost is a drop in the bucket when you talk about the destruction that can happen. thank you so much for coming down. >> thank you for being with us. we are with you until 3:00 this afternoon. we thank those of you watching on c-span. we will be back after this. >> separating the truth from the fiction. welcome to all of you listening and watching on c-span. those of you in new orleans and listening, to not forget, we podcast all of our shows. i want to thank our earlier guests. churning is now is the vice president of communications for the louisiana restaurant association. welcome. i

we told them from day one you'll never clean it out of the marsh. they said it will never get there. well, it is there. please don't take fly overs of plaquemines parish. you can't see it from the air. you have to touch it. you have to pull into that marsh and see there is absolutely no life. everything is dead. i will make you a prediction. we will lose more coastline from this disaster in louisiana than we lost from katrina, rito, gust off combined. as soon as the grass and the kane falls into the water, the land will watch wash away. how can we sit here and say we are doing everything possible? it is beside me. and i don't know who to blame any more. it took the president coming down to get the boom project -- the berman project approved. i don't know if it is going to take him coming down to get this sucks eequipt. we put a vacuum truck that vackoums out port a otties on a barge and showed that it sucks up the oil. and there is other equipment out there. you have the parish president the running the whole show. bp could fire all their contractor

i know these marshes well and i know the people well.y are the hardest working, most open hearted, generous people in the world. and you could see them out there on his workload. their heart and family and future are on the line here. they see that there's not a lot -- not enough money, little response from the federal government and other places as well in terms of getting things approved that would help, they look at the wealth created in the gulf, and they think, when as louisiana going to get any portion of these revenues the federal government has just taken out of the gulf to protect ourselves and say this coast? it is heartbreaking and there are things that we can do it we have to stay focused on those things and make sure that the federal judge permit protect this march. -- federal government for tax this march. we got through all of the hurricanes. this region has probably suffered more in the last decade, and probably the most in terms of any place. thousands of people lost their homes in katrina. churches, schools destroyed, c

we could have protected the inner marsh land. from you've destroyed millions and millions of dollars worth of oysters that this community survived on for many-- a hundred years. >> reporter: but these fishermen have other concerns as well, though their rhetoric has calmed down in the 44 days since the b.p. well exploded. i'm not hearing real serious anger from anybody here. you sound like you sort of understand the situation , is that wrong? >> we could show serious ache anger. we kuld use vulgarity. we could show hostility but it's not going to solve the problem. >> reporter: some fishermen have received lump-sum payments from b.p. but they say it isn't enough and they have met with attorneys and are planning to sue for lost income. gary barthelemy is another concerned fisherman. >> they're supposed to send us for time we couldn't work, and so far we've only gotten one check so far. and they've all been out here 40-something days, you know. and $5,000 is not enough for a man to feed his family or live off of. >> reporter: while

it is destroying the marsh piece by piece.we do not build this barrier island, we will see more loss from this oil and katrina, christoph, and i combined. -- gustav and ike combined. they got their numbers together. there are 3,000 acr of land lost already. what is it going to tke for somebody to it playing around and allow these burns to be built? >> the president of the paris joins us on the radio. -- of the parish joins us. you've been out so many times into the louisiana wet lines with b gov. bobby jindal and others. for those that have never been to one of our w ones, explain what it would normally be like this time of year, and what you have seen as you've gone through on airboats. >> you have thousands of people out there fishing. these are degrading fishing grounds in the world. -the greatest fishing grounds in the world. many species start their life cycle here in the marshlands of louisiana. the plants are dying. all the fish, all the while light is dead. we wl of lost hundreds of birds, thepelican's just got off the

the alternative to oil in the marshes brings a whole different picture. and that is what they are not taking into consiration >> fimian the governor flew over yesterday. the land is actually coming out of the marshall rig. i got goosebumps flying over it. the federal wdlife said, if you don't know what you've done done. we would never live to see those islands bill back. and they should be billed back. we will lead to this as we go forward. but because of the challenges of naysayers, and this of the federal wildlife people that have that taken care of, we have been trying for 20 years to add dirt out there. when we hear from the ocn current experts and florida, it is going to take more beach awful florida beaches. wait a minute. they were there 20 years ago. now that they are there, adding to them will note as difficult. so this will be something historical for the whole region. as long as we can get through this hurricane season, we're going to on them. we've already started a foundation for people who have donated money to help on them. we will put in t

-palso, to put a barrier in frot of the marsh so the raw oysters stays away from the marsh and the seafood bed, and it stops any of the long-term damage in those areas that have not already experienced it. we have all of these ideas, and charlie and i and others on the from people, and maybe somebody did not get enough sleep they sound like, but others sound like there are brilliant ideas, and you wonder why they are not getting tried. putting things in the water to absorb the oil. kevin costner came here with a machine that displaces the oil from the water. you do not see any of these being tried. they should all be being tried throughout the gulf right now, and it 10 of ttem work and 20 of them do not, you do more of the 10 that work. it is frustrating to see that none of these are being tried from all of his brilliant idees. have you seen any of these put into action from what you have seen and heard? >> no, i have not, and i do not know why b.p. -- it would seem that it would be in b.p.'s best interests, because it would help to get it cleaned up. the kevin costner issue, the last i he

our economy, this proposal will do nothing to fix the disastrous bleak for clean up our beaches, marshes, and waters. another idea that texas in the wrong direction is the democratic plan to increase oil cleanup fees and raise those funds to pay for unrelated programs. these funds are needed to clean up the spill, not to satisfy speaker blows his desire to raise federal spending. in addition, the administration's moratorium on deepwater drilling has the potential to become the third wave of this disaster. if left in place, the moratorium will permanently eliminate thousands of jobs and drive up the cost of energy for all americans. you don't have to take my word for it. earlier this week, democratic strategist james carville said the moratorium was "wrecking the economy of the gulf coast." one of the greatest threats to the economy of the gulf coast is the loss of tourism. our hotels and restaurants have seen business decreased by as much as 70%. every press conference on monday, president obama pointed out that there were a lot of beaches that are not affected and will not be affected.

if you're talking about well on short, it is the marshes. you have very sensitive marsh land areas. contrary to what the general public might think, the best way to clean up the march is not just to go in there and start stripping out and taking the oil out. marshes are very sensitive and you need to be careful with that. the biggest challenge is getting people to understand that doing very little, flushing to go out gently, taking care of the marshes, not trampling the vegetation, they are doing a little bit but effective work. it is much better than doing a lot of ineffective and damaging work. on a sandy beach, you can clean it very quickly. the idea that there is go in and get a quick, it absolutely holds true. just cleaning up the oil is not going in and scooping it up. there is a lot of expert work that goes into how best to do it and which way to go. >> you can see there are a lot of folks looking at a lot of data. they are looking t health risks, responders, and they're looking at a safety and health concerns response. and in a situation where you have our response, a lot of

marsh is different from a beach. a beach is bad. if you have the gorgeous white sand beaches in pensacola, or in alabama, mississippi, or florida. tar balls on the beach this nasty sludge coming into the beach is going to bicy and yucky and nasty if you get it on your feet, you have to clean it up with alcohol, it can burn you, tear you up. but if that come into the marsh, it can kill, will kill, plant life, animal life, and ocean life. so when the governor of louisiana, who was so unfairly criticized here tonight by the opposition, if -- when the governor said, look, guys, at least authorize some dredging to put some sand barriers between us and -- between our marsh and that -- that terrible spill that's headed our direction, and yet, we were -- it wasn't until the 27th of may that the federal government granted louisiana partial permission to dredge sand up to build sort of an island-type barrier so maybe that oil would hit the sand and not come in where all the plants and wildlife and the sea life lives and thrives and functions.

the oil is saturating the marsh. it is on the seafloor. >> yet taken a picture of an oyster that is dying. -- you have taken a picture of an oyster that is dying. it is a way of life for my husband and a lot of fishermen. you're looking at death. no more fishing. no more trapping. no more oysters. it is death. >> what does your husband do? >> he is a commercial fisherman. >> is this your shrimp boat? could you tell me about the boats? >> i had one before this. i sold it to get me of fiberglass and one that requires less maintenance. -- of fiberglass one that requires less maintenance. >> what does that do to your business? >> i look forward every year to the season opening. we schrempp all year round. i'm like a kid with the new toy. i cannot see myself not doing it. it is just wonderful to go up there and compete with others. it is just enjoyment. it is something you do it every year. >> is the money pretty good when you are getting a lot? >> id is pretty good. the price of fuel right now is not -- it is pretty good

it is marshes. you have sensitive marsh areas.st way to clean up a marsh is fot to just going in there and start stripping it out. marshes are sensitive environments. you need to be careful with that. the biggest challenge is getting people to understand you node to do very little. don't mix the oil and the set iment. doing a little bit of effective work is better than doing a lot of ineffective and damaging work and to contrast that on a sandy beach quickly. see the the idea of going in and getting that quick holds. getting people to understand is not just about skiping it up. there's a lot of expert work and ways to do it and how best to go. >> there is a lot of folks looking at a lot of data. what they are analyzing are health risk to the crews and respondees and any sacheti and health concerns for response wide. in any situation where you have a response. a lot of people looking back on short notice. you have a element of risk. that's true on the land. you take that out. have you a ten-fold risk factor. there's a lot of folks

you see it in, you know, in generations of people who have carved a living out of the marshes. who have carveded a living off of the land here, and that will continue. i mean, new orleans is a remarkable place, and a city of memory and place where it does not erase the past, no matter how painful the past is, and they incorporate the past. it is like walking down the streets, it is you see the past alive in the present, and i think that this city, new orleans will continue. the gulf coast will continue, but lives here are hanging in the balance, and the way of balance is hanging in the balance, and you know, there is no clock on this. there is no telling of when this will end. >> larry: don't forget our big special two hours of all of the participants that you see here and many, many others will be with us on monday night. ryan seacrest will be back to co-host as well. accused killer joran van der sloot, and can he help solve the natalee holloway case? some developments in that case. huh? ♪ where do gummy bears hide? under the seat. look! yeah! ♪ [ telephone rings ] [ male anno

you might go into a marsh, into marshes, you might go up to the area around the marsh where there is a pool of oil and bring it out to shallow water skimming. that is pretty much what they do. and the third stage that comes from the day that is what you do with long-term radiation of the marsh. typically it goes on for as long as there is oil. then you move into what they call the cleanup. what does that habitat need to have done so that it meets the end points and goes back to the way that it was prior or significantly similar to the way it was before this bill -- before the spill. >> "washington journal" continues. host: deborah gordon is a former regulatory and environmental engineer for chevron. you wrote a piece in "the washington post," last week. the headline is "big oil can't get behind petroleum." why? caller: since the 1870's big oil has structured itself around one commodity. -- guest: since the 1870's big oil has structured itself around one commodity. there is a real doubt now that we are likely to talk about being a real transition with the oil. the old oil will not be

this is eroding the marshes. >> we should be on the land right now. this is how bad this erodes. this is going to go away that much quicker if we have a storm. we have to move the coastline further in. >> the position -- we see that we are on land. we are 50 feet away from the shoreline. this used to the land here. this is from over the years of the hurricane and the coastal erosion. >> what would you be doing here? ing.'d be shrimp >> i just want to have this back. >> i am upset about this. we just need to clean this up, that is all. some people are angry, but what are you going to do? you just have to clean this up. >> there is a lot of oil out there that you see in the grass. this is extraordinarily thin, this is 0.00015 milimeters -- millimeters thin. and oil degrades. if you have not seen a lot of this on the water -- this accumulates and this is where we have to treat this. >> none of these birds look like they have any oil on them. >> we have not had this to light we have elsewhere. we have the concentration of oil, -- >> this is a long process, where we move this diligent

the biggest concern we have are the marshes, the estuaries, the wetlands where if you start seeing that oil seeping in, it can not only kill oyster beds and other vitally important seafood and ecosystems, but even with the repair efforts in those areas can actually destroyed the ecology in the region. we have to coordinate with the best scientists we have available. thad allen is working with all the other agencies to make sure we are rating priorities in terms of areas that have to be protected first and foremost because they may have a more difficult time to recover. that means that sometimes like a mississippi they just made a decision they will not put boom from of the beaches because if the oil it's there, is dead but it is temporary. some of these other areas it could be permanent. thank you, everybody. >> tonight at 8:00, the president will address the nation from the old office on the gulf of mexico oil spill. this is president obama's first oval office address. we'll have live coverage on the cspan network's including cspan radio and c-span.org. "washington journal" is next. we

there is a whole lot of seafood beds and marshes that haven't been protected. we were building up these barriers and then yesterday the federal government comes and shuts it down. again, this is something that we thought for over three weeks and the federal government finally permitted. they were so successfully, supposedly, that the president bragged about it on national tv and then yesterday they shut it down quietly and we are not going to let this go by quietly. it's their job and they're not doing it. mr. akin: the question that raises my blood pressure is, it seems to me like president bush was accused for bringing hurricane katrina and yet we got the -- one of the biggest leadership vacuums in terms of this oil spill. every time you hear about something. there's also that moratorium that we're not going to drill any more oil wells at all. we are going to can sell every air flight in america cancel every air flight in america. there is enough cover-ups and different things that we don't know exactly what happened. but apparently the equipment, at least if

. >> one reporter saw the man that was a mile from the marsh. we may not be seeing any help questions that we might have had. >> my name is commander tim davis. i am a physician with the healt. >> what kind of health problems are you finding? >> it is your general health problems. we cannot clearly identify anything as oil related. we are not seeing anything other than a dormitory situation. >> how many workers are involved in this that you have to worry about? >> there are about 27,000. there are about 11,000 in terrabone parish and about the same in plackman parish. >> do you have to set up mobile health units? how does that work? >> we do not want to tax the parishes or the counties. at their own medical infrastructure. we have first aid set up and we have ambulances' set up. we have a physician care set up a would be equivalent to an acute care center. we monitor the assets aa that are mobile. we work with the county authorities to make sure that we are not burdening thh parishes, but we are not depriving the local medical infrastructure of

it's going to be in all kinds of marsh lands andetlands and on sandy beaches and you can't pick it up with skimmers. effectively you c't boom it all off. the only real interesting proposal i've seen with with regards of save these wetlands is the state of louisiana to build these sand -- out out of prome. but history teaches us once the oil is spilled, you're not picking it up. host: remember canne line you're on for brian o'neal. caller: hello? hi. i read something the other day, jay pepper asked o'bama at some press conference that there was some 17 countries that offered to help with the cleanup and o'bama only accepted mexico's help and norway -- other countries had started to help with backings, why would we not accept any help to start cleaning this up? ors it even possible to start vacuuming upome oil before it eps spreading any further? guest: well, a couple of comments. first of all, you can't just go out there and vacuum up the oil. some of it is under water. some of it is in a high-energy environmen and it covers such a huge area, that it's sort of like throwing a dart at t

officials waited for nearly a month for approval on a plan to construct sand berms to protect our valuable marsh and prevent at least a dozen pelicans from dying? our fishermen constantly have to seek bp's approval to clean up our beaches. the delay of the sand berms plan is tough prime example of the a administration response to this problem. millions of barrels of oil and they are women, devastating louisiana fisheries. quick action could have limited the scope of this disaster for the present responded by making excuses and shifting blame. i and people throughout louisiana have had enough and are sick and tired of excuses that we continue to be given by the president and bp. instead of leading let the commander in chief, he continues that like a spectator in the stands. to an insult to injury, he has imposed a six-month ban on deepwater drilling. this is like taking it jack, -- taking a jackhammer to the louisiana economy. this will name -- eliminate 40,000 jobs. we must figure out what went on to prevent this type of the disaster from happening in the future. the president is now exporting o

the problem is the hardest place to pick up oil is in a marsh or wet land. the easiest place is from a sandy beach. you take it to a certified dump and treat it as oily waste. but it is much easier to recover and remove. the best thing is to do it on the water. beach is easier to deal with than a marsh is. i am not sure what the question is. i will give you a summary of what is going on. there are reports of underwater oil plumes. the administrator has put together a large area sampling plant to send vessels out and form a consortium to get data and test the water at different depths. that is being done right now including operating in a five-mile and ten-mile radius. those vessels are starting to return to port. there are others going out. sometime in the near future they will put together a profile based on all of the data so we can understand what profile based on all of the data so we can understand what >> when we put the cap down there were four vents on the cap that allow the oil to escape. you want to keep oil in the containment cap and not let water

it's going to be in all kinds of marsh lands and wetlands and on sandy beaches and you can't pick it up with skimmers. effectively you can't boom it all off. the only real interesting proposal i've seen th with regards of save these wetlands is the state of louisiana to build these sand -- out out of promise. but history teaches us once the oil is spilled, you're not picking it up. host: remember canneine you're on for brian o'neal. caller: hello? hi. i read something the other day, jay pepper asked o'bama at some press conference that there was some 17 countries that offered to help with the cleanup and o'bama only accepted mexics help and norwa -- other countries had started to help with backings, why would we not accept any help to start cleaning this up? or is it even possible to start vacuuming up some oil before it keeps spreading any further? guest: well, a couple of comments. first of all, you can't just go out there and vacuum up the oil. some of it is under water. some of it is in a high-energy environment. and it covers such a huge area, that it's sort of like throwing a d

i know these marshes well and i know the people well. they are the hardest working, most open hearted, generous people in the world. and you could see them out there on his workload. their heart and family and future are on the line here. they see that there's not a lot -- not enough money, little response from the federal government and other places as well in terms of getting things approved that would help, they look at the wealth created in the gulf, and they think, when as louisiana going to get any portion of these revenues the federal government has just taken out ofhe gulf to protect ourselves and say this coast? it is heartbreaking and there are things that we can do it we have to stay focused on those things and make sure that the federal judge permit protect this march. -- federal government for tax this march. we got through all of the hurricanes. this region has probably suffered more in the last decade, and probably the most in terms of any place. thousands of people lost their homes in katrina. churches, schools destroyed,

i grew up in the marshes of south carolina. the oil has a catastrophic effect on the fiddler crabs, on the small life there. it just breaks your heart. host: any reconsideration of drilling policy? guest: not reconsideration but certainly, i believe there should be a cut off valve on any drilling facility, whether it be in the ocean, or on the ground, on land. there must be a failsafe cut of system with a valve. this is not rocket science. we know -- in fact, i working with people promoting a cut off system for homes that would have sensors where, if there is an unusual discharge of water, the water intake of a home or government or apartment building, it would automatically cut off through a cut off valve. i know the technology is there. so, before any well should be approved, it must have a cut off system. but we need to be drilling. we cannot continue to be depended on the rest of the world for our oil. i was wondering, when duva of representatives have planned for us in terms of jobs, and people employed around here? guest:

if you're talking about oil on show ouore, it is the marshes. contrary to what the general public might think, the best way to clean up the marsh is not to go in there and stripping the oil out. the marsh is a very sensitive environment, and you need toobe very careful with that. the biggest challenge is getting people to understand that there is very little of flushing the oil gently. do not mix the oil in the sediment. actually understanding that doing a little bit of effective work is doing -- is much better than doing damaging work. if you contrast that to a sandy beach, you can clean a sandy beach very quickly. the idea of going and getting a quick, holds harm.3 that it is about cceaning up oi+ is not just all. tic o>> this is a lot of people lookiig at a lot of data. they are analyzing healthhrisks to the crews, responders. any health concerns sste wide. in any sstuation where you have a response and moving people fast you have an element of risk. that is true on the llnd, and you take that out at sea and you have a tenfold risk factor. th

these marsh grasses mean life to the fisheries. you cannot just say, it is only going to impact grass. it is impacting the entire ecosystem, of which people are just one component. we need to see to it that we learn lessons from this. this has happened in other places before. this golf disaster. -- gulf disaster. it is sad to say that, you know, today, it is business as usual. look at what happened here. when will it not be enough? -- enough be enough? when will we stop and say, let's learn from this. let's put in the work. let's put in the safeguards. we need to the under -- we need we cannot allow ourselves to be hostage to one source of energy. oil is included in that, but we should not look only to oil. what is happening in the gulf right now is a testament. >> [inaudible] we are fortunate we get to live here. >> every day. some people come to get away from it all. >> tell us about the gulf restoration effort and what you are doing here. >> we're a nonprofit environmental advocacy organization. through been around to a number o

where it accumulates in the marsh. that's where we have to treat it.jo we saw a lot of birds out there. none of them look like there is oil on them. why is that? >> what's the next step? >> this is it. it is a long process. we go out there and continue replacing the boom. the gentleman from alabama. mr. bachus: thank you, mr. speaker. this motion to instruct directs the confereeso insist that this legislation end the possibility of taxpayer-funded bailouts once and for a by stipulating that bankruptcy is the only available option for liquid ating a failed financial firm. the motion also reqres that the conferees and the public by xtension have at least 72 hours to review the contentof the conference report before its inal approval. we've heard time and time again that the democrats, quote, resolutionuthority to wind down systemically significant financial institution ends the too big to fail doctrine and protects taxpayers. that's an outrageous and false claim. read the bills. both the house and the senate let the fdido the following -- lend to a faili

one fisherman gave a tour of oil polluted marsh areas. >> this is the grand bayou village. we have been in this region for centuries upon centuries making our homes and having a life peer in this region. we are native american. we have lived in this region, as i said before, forever. we have seen over a period of time the changes that at come to the environment. some of it is natural, but the majority of it has been human induced. we have managed to adapt and adjust our way of living in order to remain here. we are facing a situation right now with the gulf disaster and the oil and the dispersants used to sink that oil. we are facing something we had never faced before, the unknown. we have no idea how this will impact our communities and the marine life we are dependent on for our food and our source of reveeue. we are looking for answers. we are watching and waiting for what comes up the bayou. >> what happened here during to train up? >> the village was impacted -- what happened here during kat rina? >> we are still in recovery. we have only managed to get five homes reb

i know these marshes well and i know the people well. world. and you could see them out there on his workload. their heart and family and future are on the line here. they see that there's not a lot -- not enough money, little response from the federal government and other places as well in terms of getting things approved that would help, they look at the wealth created in the gulf, and they think, when as louisiana going to get any portion of these revenues the federal government has just taken out of the gulf to prote ourselves and say this cst? it is heartbreaking and there are things that we can do it we have to stay focused on those things and make sure that the federal judge permit protec this march. -- federal government for tax this march. we got through all of the hurricanes. this region has probably suffered more in the last decade, and probably the most in terms of any place. thousands of people lost their homes in katrina. churches,

we are getting erosion of a lot of these wetlands and marshes. they are putting booms out in this interior march, trying to protect the estuaries where shrimp and fish lay their eggs and such as that. of course, over on the east side of the river into st. bernard and blackmon parrish. lake catherine is still open to fishing, but the oil is collecting on chandelier island. if it keeps going like that, it will keep going up in the north end and start getting into those lakes from the back side. you do not know where the tide is going to take this stuff. new orleans is right here on the north end of all of it. >> the administrator is on her way and should be here within the next 10 minutes, and admiral allen should be here as well. >> have you seen johnnie glover around this morning? >> mr. glover is actually here today with his wife. >> lead the way. >> how are you doing? further notice. [unintelligible] >> thanks for coming over. how are things going? >> very good. >> here is what i am interested in. over the last week and a half, we have made a n

all of these resources down here are very important to the people like me that grew up here in the marshnt and enjoy it so much. thank you for what you do, miss frances. i'm just overwhelmed this morning. thank you. guest: well, thank you so much for saying that. i think looking at these videos of cleaning up the birds, you really have to thank the volunteers and people who come together from all over the country to be available to louisiana, to the gulf coast, to really ensure that there is a maximum clean-up operation. i think you're right when you see the oil, oil pelicans, it's really devastate willing. but your hope is renewed when you really see the response of those volunteer workers and professionals in the wildlife clean-up. i know i am. thank you for all you do and for appreciating how valuable that marshland is. host: washington, d.c., republican line. carol, good morning. caller: hi, good morning. i have a question, but first i just wanted to just comment. with the exxon valdez, i know + they did an investigatiin, and from the very beginning, you know, news came forwarddthat

we need it out there so the oil does not get into the marsh. it gets into this sense of urgency. it is not just about writing checks. that is important, but it is even more important that the work gets done in a quick time frame. there is no quick turnaround, and things like that continue to happen. are you going to change something on the ground to ease the fact that it is not just about running a pr campaign? we have things that have to happen quickly, because there is not the time for days to go by. >> we continue to improve the quality of the response and the engagement of people in the initial area. it has been the biggest challenge, and we continue to work. >> is the casing damaged below the sea floor? >> we do not know that, because we have not been able to get their. we have no way of knowing that. >> i know that two days ago -- i apologize. mr. mccain was testifying at the same table you are at on tuesday. he said the spill response has been effective, and i strongly disagree. i would like to know, do you agree or disagree with his statement? >> i think if any oil gets t

many others get flooded with ideas on how to stop the oil from coming into the marsh. we have seen his ideas like putting hay and the water all live to the supertankers of saudi arabia. none are getting done on the ground. this is a database of ideas with links, schematics of a number of different ideas that should be done to stop the oil from coming into the marsh. it is not getting done. we have no time to waste. moved swiftly on this. i will give you a resolution passed by the senate to ask you to engage local people affected with many of them cannot even be employed in saving the marsh. also, speed up the efforts on these alternatives. we have a lot of ocean out there with oil. >> time. >> use every opportunity. i will give this to you. >> >> questions, please. >> thank you. your $20 billion of compensation fund is a good first step, but just the beginning. you will have to fully compensate everyone affected by this disaster. this week bp announced the first installment of a $25 million fund within a broader $500 million commitment to the gulf of mexico research in

you put barges, lines of barges that protect the shoreline or the marshes. to suck that oil out and put it in the barge and separate the water and clean water and put it back in the city. the need to cart the oil off to a refinery where it can be incinerated. that is called second salvage. using supertankers' is the same thing. i had conversations with bp a few weeks ago and i have been in communication with the coast guard. the coast guard is looking at it seriously. i am hoping that will make them come to a decision quickly. i am keeping the pressure on from where i said. i am a retired president. i have only so much standing. i could use my own voice and influence and i think it's a measure of success but maker at whatever level of government. whether it is the president or congress or the peak, someone has to say do it. host: does the u.s. have a legal obligation to honor permits for offshore drilling? guest: the government is the grandeur of the permit and a taker of the permit. if the government deems that the permit should no longer be valid. does the

and now this oil has gotten into those marshes and shut down the oyster, shrimp, fishing, it's going to devastate the economy down there. and i'm really proud of what president obama did meeting with b.p. in about getting that $20 billion fund set up, because that's going to be really important for sustaining at least some of those businesses, some of those fishing vessels and stuff down there right now. this bill is so large, and the thing that concerns us is that you see the spill on top of the water, but now they have plumes of spills that goes down 1,000 feet out in the gulf. what really concerns us now is we're 18 days into hurricane season, which goes to november. and the ocean is 44% warmer this year than it was last year for hurricane season. and we've been in what they call -- if you're familiar with it -- el nino season, where the jet steam stays down south, but now we're going into a lot l.a. anyone yo season where the jet stream is moving north, which is going to open up just like a trough coming through. and nooa was talking, kind of a model of what would happen if a maj

, and i see the brown pelican ery time we go to the marsh fis and i a see the raccoons, rabbits.ble to wildlif this is called the sportsman's radise for a reason, o and eve time i see pictures of birds that are covered with oil, i get so sad, i want t cry. but seeing these volunteers coming from all ovethe country t ft jackson, bless these people, because that our state bd. all of these resoues down here a very important to the peopllike mehat grew up here in the marsh that fish and hunt and enjoy i so mu. hank youor what you do, miss frances. i'm just overwhelmed this morning. thank you. guest: well, thank you so much for saying that. i think looking at these videos of cleing up the birds, you rely have to thank the volunteers and people whoe toer from alr the country to be available to louisiana, to the gulf coast, to reall ensure that ere is a maximum cle-up operation. i thk you're righthen you sethoil, oil pelans, it's really devastate wling. but your hope ened when you really see the response of ose volunteer workers and professionals in the wildlife cln-up. i know i am. tha

when he was in the museum of picking up balls of car, i wanted to see him in the marshes where the oil is. i think that his speech was to kurt. it seemed to businesslike and scripted. i wanted him to speak from the heart. that is all i had to say. thank you. host: we will move on to richmond, republican line. caller: good morning. you are one classy lady. nothing has gotten better under president obama because he does not want it to get better. he uses every crisis to an expanded government and government causes more problems. people depend on something that will always let them down. and he is a talker. a professional voyeur. if he had any emotion at all it was about having one of his vacations interrupted. here is what is wrong with america, self destructive and self-serving. god bless you for what you do. thank you. host: sheila, democratic line. go ahead. caller: the question today about the president having a motion -- having emotion, the question is out of line with what is going on. do you want someone running around screaming fire, fire? i have watched you for the last hour, yo

. >> when you hear about oil trading in the marshes, where is that at? >> >> it is in the bay up toward here. you see that is no longer there. you talk about coastal erosion. they are putting booms out in the interior march where the fish lay their eggs. this is from terrebonne into saint bernard. the lake is still open to fishing, but as you see, that oil is collecting on the island. if it keeps going like that, it will go to the north and, and it will get into lakes from the backside. you don't know where the tide is going to take this stuff. new orleans is right here on the north end. >> thank you. >> she is in charge on the coast guard side, the administrator should be here in the next 10 minutes. >> we're headed to where the shares are up there. >> i believe the sun is here. [unintelligible] >> lead the way. >> how are you doing? >> making it. >> [unintelligible] >> how're we doing? >> thank you for coming over. >> it will be a week now. >> how is it going? >> here is what i am interested in. over the last weekend half, we made a number of significa