martel climbs the ladder, gets the rebound, and i believe is fouled.is one that allen could have gotten. sometimes there are rebounders in the same area. that is one he could have gotten. just had to move across the lane and go for it. verne: francis-cedric martel out of montreal. he will be at the free-throw line. the senior producer of cbs sports and "the road to the final four", the coordinator of basketball on cbs, coordinating basketball on cbs, coordinating producer of cbs sports -- bill: chuck, went out of town. verne: yeah. charles knows his hoops. and a foul is called. well, just look at the air under these basketballs. bill: utterly amazing. the trajectory is special. great confidence. gets it on the right shoulder. you see that rotation. he is always squared up and ready. plus he can put it on the deck. he is a strong individual. pretty impressive with the numbers. verne: butler has fouled out. he is a red shirt senior. in his final appearance for the richmond spiders, unless something magical happens for them, butler leaves with 14 points a

josephine martell is back with us. she's an animal welfare psychology expert.ologist michelle golland is also here. winston is a herpatologist features on animal planet march 14th. we just heard about mr. huff eaten by monitor lizards. does that make sense, to have a houseful of monitor lizards as pets? is that something that could work in that situation? >> it might not make sense to you or me but it made sense to ron and there are lots of other people out there that do that sort of thing. they have a real passion for the animal. >> is they different appeal -- or a different person that wants a reptile rather than a chimp. you're not going to do much with a monitor lizard other than observe them, i'm guessing. >> yeah, there's a difference. i say we because i'm one of these people in terms of the passion that we all share for the animals. we tend to be more interested in their intrinsic with their value of the animals, their behaviors. there are so many different species of amphibians and reptiles you can keep in your home. you can't keep an elephant if your b