martha jefferson, thomas jefferson's daughter, filled that kind of function in his administration. can go on and on. i guess what i'm asking, whether it's rose cleveland that served with her brother, grover cleveland in a quasi capacity until he got married. we had a history of this thing without doing great harm to our constitution or country. what is the big deal? >> there is no big deal. again, let's go back to the democrat thing doesn't apply to us. anna roosevelt served as her father's personal assistant. there was no issue there. the funny thing about this issue, ivanka was operating under a good faith agreement with the white house. the left got enraged because they didn't like her being involved. so she said, okay. that's fine. i'll become a white house employee. a federal employee. i'll do the necessary paperwork, the background checks, the security clearances and i won't get paid. yet still not enough. >> neil: what would be wrong if she was part of a kitchen cabinet. richard nixon's brother had a role. there are advisors that they talk to without any official capacity. w

helped me push through the book and tt is a quote from elizabeth tech, the enslaved seamstress to martha jefferson and she said at the grave we should be permitted to lay burdens down and a new world of bright ness may open to us. the light should grow behind the dark mysterious powers of death. and then finally, i shared this when i was here a few weeks ago a slave wrote a poem on the jail cell wall to his wife after being separated. he said dear wife, they cannot sell the rows of love that in my boosem glows. remember as your tears flow, they cannot sell my mortal part. thank you. you can wach this and other programs online at booktv.org. >> professor kindy is joining us

don't get me started on martha jefferson, working, i covered this, i remember this, she served and didst functions on behalf of her father at time. so i guess i'm saying is, i see it on the right and the left. should we make a big deal of it at all? >> you know, neil, of course i'm going to say no and i'm going to tell you why. i would kill to have someone like ivanka trump working for me for free. look, she is doing this for free. she is accomplished. she is actually well-thought-of, a lot of people liked her, democrats and republicans alike before she was underneath her father's wing. let me tell you something, this is self-made businesswoman. this is a working mom. i can go on and on about qualifications. neil: when you're part of a billionaire family, the self-made thing can push it. i understand what you're saying. but patrice, when i look at this, i'm just thinking, the appearance is, jars people, but should it here? >> i don't think it should. i mean the doj blessed the ability for the trump, for president trump to nominate or appoint close relatives to offices. if he thinks tha

helped me push through this book and one is from elizabeth techly, the enslaved seamstress to martha jefferson and when she talks about death: at the grave we should be permitted to lay our burden downs and a new world of brightness may open. the light denied here should grow into a flow beyond the dark mysterious shadows of death. and finally, i shared this when i was here a few weeks ago. a slave named mingo wrote a poem on the jail cell wall to his wife after they had been separated and he said to her, dear wife, they cannot sell the rows of love and remember as your tears may start they cannot sell a mortal part. thank you. >> here is a look at upcoming book fairs and vest festivals. this weekend, we are live at the university of arizona for the tucson festival of the book. march 25, we will be live at the virginia book festival. on april 8t, look for us at the annapolis book festival and the san antonio book festival. and two weeks later for the 19th year, booktv will be live from the los angeles times festival of books. for more information about the book fairs and festivals booktv will