we are talking about how presidential transitions work with martha kumar.y, are they receiving briefings and how much information do they get as far as national security? >> guest: the national security briefings are for the candidates that have been nominated for the presidency. they would not get a briefings until that point. yes, they would get briefings that are from the national intelligence operation, and the director of national intelligence. they are not the same as what a president would get. in 2008, particularly with relations to sources and methods of information, and those president bush did not want to hand over until he said that when the president-elect came in and was sitting in his chair, but that was the time when you get sources and methods. you don't need that complicated bit of information. and when you compress -- >> host: the transition teams than suffer the candidates or whatever stage they're at, how underfunded? i get taxpayer-funded? >> guest: all of the agency review canseco in our volunteer. there will be staff funding once you