we get that from martha mccallum. the only people who matter are the millions of americans now who just hanging in the balance to see what's going to happen. are they getting answers today? >> i think what they're getting is with the alternative they have right now, what we're seeing is doctors leaving the business. doctors closing up shop. insurers deciding they don't want to be in that market place. what we're seeing is a diminishing choice for everybody in the course of this program. so what they're saying, let's kick it back to the state, similar to what happened under bill clinton and welfare. let them handle it closer to the people in their own state. with regard to all of these questions, it really gives a lot of liberty to the states to decide what's best for the people in their states. >> harris: they got duped when they were told they couldn't keep their doctor. now it sounds like they can keep their doctors because their doctors are leaving the program. the president can sometimes do a lot. he tweeted today

speaker ryan before the dinner was trying to downplay the tension in an interview with martha mccallumwatch. >> the word was that you were furious. >> no, i wasn't furious. i have a belief on debt issues that we should, for the credit markets, have longevity on these things, but i completely understand why he was doing what he was doing. you expect the president to talk tooi other party. isn't it natural that a president should be speaking with leadership of the other parties? >> he wants to patch things up, but later in the interview it's interesting the speaker seemed to not like the idea the president isea talking about now about maybe ending the debt ceiling votes altogether so you don't rattle the credit market. ryan saying, look, congress has the power of the purse, and a mechanism raising the debt ceiling, tying spending to it, because clearly ryan wants that prerogative, but also he wants to show conservatives he wants to cute spending, because you have reports that steve bannon and others are looking at a potential replacement to the speaker. dana? >> ed, thank you very much.

for more, martha mccallum. she's on every week day night at 7:00 p.m. good to see you. >> you too. >> a lot going on. i'll go back to the visualization, if you will, chuck schumer, nancy pelosi and president trump getting together for dinner at the white house. a lot on the table. the discussion is expected to include the dream act, stabilizing the obamacare health insurance markets. i guess you could expect tax reform might be on the table as well. >> i mean, there's no doubt the president is extremely frustrated with his own party. his feelings about not passing healthcare are really potent. so i think when he came into office, he said i want to work with both sides. he used to be a democrat, right? now he's a republican. he's from new york. he and chuck schumer go way back even though he just called him head clown. i don't think that will come up at dinner tonight. he is -- i think it's so striking, this dinner tonight, you have paul ryan, mitch mcconnell watching this from the outside saying hmmm. that was us at that table. now, you know, they're --